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1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jun-2021 13:46:44 EDT GeniusMusing
   This could get interesting if it is good enough.
   
   Google gets a new rival as Brave Search opens to the public CNET
   https://www.cnet.com/news/google-gets-a-new-rival-as-brave-search-opens-to-the-public/
   
   >Brave, the maker of a popular ad blocking browser, opened on Tuesday a public beta of its privacy-focused search engine, a first step in creating a product that could compete with market titan Google. Brave Search will become the default search engine in the Brave browser later this year.
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   >Unlike other new search engines, which generally repackage results from Google and Microsoft's Bing, Brave is building an independent index of the web. (Brave Search will rely on Bing in some areas, like images, where its own results aren't yet good enough.)
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   >Initially, Brave Search won't show ads -- the chief way that Google monetizes its search results. Later, it'll offer free, ad-supported search and a paid option with no ads.
   1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jun-2021 13:56:48 EDT lnxw48a1

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      I hope they make an impact with their search.
      
      I remember some years back a new search project named "Cuil" launched. I think they were former Google engineers, and had a huge search index, but a poor algorithm. #Cuil did not last long.
      1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jun-2021 20:41:08 EDT musicman

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         what about #DDG?
         1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jun-2021 22:59:00 EDT lnxw48a1

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            @musicman They don't seem to be running Duckbot anymore, just grabbing results straight from #Bing. And Bing's results were almost as bad as Ask's, last time I checked.
            
            So, yeah, I don't know how #DDG (and to some extent #Yahoo) were able to do it before, but their results were far better than Bing's despite mostly coming from Bing. Now, they're pretty similar ... and overall bad.
            
            I still go to #DuckDuckGo first, but more and more, I find myself going to #Startpage or directly to #Google after a failed DDG search.
            1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 09:05:50 EDT musicman

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               Google search has gotten really, really, really, and I cannot stress this enough REALLY bad at bandcamp searches. idk if it's bandcamp or google, but it's basically unusable.
               1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 09:14:41 EDT GeniusMusing

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                  @lnxw48a1 @musicman
                  It seems that DDG is more of a search aggregator.
                  
                  Sources DuckDuckGo Help Pages
                  https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/
                  
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                  >To do that, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from multiple partners, though most commonly from Bing (and none from Google).
                  
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            2. Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 21:06:58 EDT Alexandre Oliva

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               maybe try searx?
               1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 23:00:47 EDT lnxw48a1

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                  @lxo #Searx is a metasearching front end. If I want it to give the kind of results I want, I need to select good back end engines for it to use.
                  
                  For example, if it uses #Bing, the results it receives from Bing will be bad ... Searx can mix better results from elsewhere to improve what it gives to its users, but why not just remove low quality searches entirely?