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  1. Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp) (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Sep-2021 20:45:01 EDT Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp) Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp)
    I wonder, how does matrix deal do end-to-end (?) encryption on multiple devices without keeping a copy of the keys?
    In conversation Thursday, 16-Sep-2021 20:45:01 EDT from gnusocial.net permalink
    1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Sep-2021 21:17:31 EDT lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
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      @lxo That seems to be the reason so many new #Matrix users crowd the element-iOS and element-android rooms, asking about "cannot decrypt" messages.
      In conversation Thursday, 16-Sep-2021 21:17:31 EDT from nu.federati.net permalink
      1. GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Sep-2021 22:23:39 EDT GeniusMusing GeniusMusing
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        @lxo @lnxw48a1
        While not directly related, starting on page ten is some very interesting multi-keyed encryption/decryption description.
        Still trying to wrap my head around it.

        GRC/Twit Security Now show notes, REvil’s Clever Crypto, aka Sodinokibi.

        https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-827-Notes.pdf
        In conversation Thursday, 16-Sep-2021 22:23:39 EDT from nu.federati.net permalink
        1. Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp) (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Friday, 17-Sep-2021 01:08:12 EDT Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp) Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp)
          in reply to
          not at all related, really. the difficulty of multi-device end-to-end encryption is that you have to encrypt stuff so that all authorized devices, present and (presumably) future, can decrypt it. so a key has to somehow be transferred securely from an authorized device to a newly-added device, that it can then use to decrypt the encrypted messages, or the encryption key used for each message. it's a key distribution problem, which does not appear to be an issue for the ransomware described in the document you linked to
          In conversation Friday, 17-Sep-2021 01:08:12 EDT from gnusocial.net permalink
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