@Moon @thatguyoverthere @sj_zero @yes Even when they have proof, the argument then becomes "but even *Republican establishment guy that no one trusts* didn't think that proof was worth investigating!" There's the video of the State Farm Arena in Atlanta where one of the counting organizers evacuated the place on a false pretense ("flooding", which was then downgraded to a toilet overflowing when after the fact people pointed out no plumber was called for this), pulled out a box of ballots kept segregated and with a couple of others just ran these through the counting machines for hours alone with no supervision or oversight. This is all on video, and no reasonable explanation was ever given for this (some scoffing and "pfft, this is all normal/a reasonable mistake that could happen anytime anywhere").