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1. INACTIVE (deadsuperhero@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Sunday, 12-Nov-2017 01:55:54 EST INACTIVE

   #Mastodon really needs a groups feature, preferably one that is compatible with OStatus groups. #Diaspora needs one, too.

   These kinds of communication relays are actually really useful in community-building. In a microblogging environment, it's a powerful feature that Twitter doesn't offer.

   1. deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 17:49:11 EST deutrino

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      @deadsuperhero mastodon issue re: support for groups, links to issue about following hashtags with discussion of relative merit of each feature https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/139 @bobjonkman @hyper

      1. INACTIVE (deadsuperhero@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 18:58:04 EST INACTIVE

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         @deutrino @bobjonkman @hyper Following hashtags is unfortunately a poor substitute with serious communication issues between instances. Main problem is that it's not a relay model - you're just attaching yourself to messages that show up in your stream.

         1. deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 19:32:06 EST deutrino

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            @deadsuperhero absolutely agree that hashtag-following is no substitute for a !banggroup feature. But there is Discourse👌 about the relative merits in the hashtag-following issue, worth a read for people who people invested in getting one or the other implemented I think :) @bobjonkman @hyper

            1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 21:18:10 EST Bob Jonkman

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               Got a link to that Discourse on #hashtag following?
               1. deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 21:46:21 EST deutrino

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                  @bobjonkman https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/1096

                  1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 00:38:44 EST Bob Jonkman

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                     I'm reminded of #DontReadTheComments -- the unknowledgeable teaching the incorrect to the ignorant while dismissing the reality from the experienced.
            2. INACTIVE (deadsuperhero@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:07:12 EST INACTIVE

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               @deutrino @bobjonkman @hyper It was definitely something we implemented in #Diaspora back in the day.

               It's really good for seeing local content from your instance and your remote contacts, but the shortcoming becomes apparent if you're self-hosting your own tiny instance.

               1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:08:33 EST Oneesan succubus

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                  @deadsuperhero @hyper @bobjonkman @deutrino what about remote-following hashtags?
                  1. INACTIVE (deadsuperhero@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:13:59 EST INACTIVE

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                     @lain @deutrino @bobjonkman @hyper Part of the problem is first indicating where the remote source should be.

                     In theory, I think you could totally fetch public posts from a specified server containing a tag, and feed it into your stream with some kind of subscription object, but it's partially a UX problem, and partially a resource problem.

                     At the very least, group relay model is good at provisioning content back-and-forth between where the group object lives, and all the downstream subscribers.

                     1. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:21:34 EST Oneesan succubus

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                        @deadsuperhero @hyper @bobjonkman @deutrino i remember all of this from the same discussion on Diaspora five years ago. I still think that not implementing the simple solution (tag following on specific remote servers , e.g. #toot@mastodon.social) was a mistabe. Everyone waited for the perfect solution that never came.
                        1. Hyper-Cole (hyper@p2px.me)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:22:18 EST Hyper-Cole

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                           @lain @deadsuperhero @bobjonkman @deutrino Lain - why not start by implementing it in Pleroma and see if it takes off? Worse case you remove or modify the feature right?
                        2. INACTIVE (deadsuperhero@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:23:16 EST INACTIVE

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                           @lain @deutrino @bobjonkman @hyper I mean, we did end up doing this thing: https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/Relay_servers_for_public_posts

                  2. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:42:54 EST Bob Jonkman

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                     #Hashtag following is already built into !GNUsocial, just select the "Subscribe" button on http://yourinstance.example.org/tag/hashtag https://gs.jonkman.ca/attachment/25185
                     1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:43:12 EST Bob Jonkman

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                        And #RemoteHashtag following can be done by selecting the Atom/RSS feed for a tag on the remote server and adding it to "Settings, Mirroring, Feed URL". https://gs.jonkman.ca/attachment/25187
                     2. Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2017 13:43:38 EST Oneesan succubus

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                        @bobjonkman can you remote subscribe?
   2. ｍ４ｓｋ１ｎ 🇵🇱 (m4sk1n@mstdn.m4sk.in)'s status on Sunday, 12-Nov-2017 05:21:56 EST ｍ４ｓｋ１ｎ 🇵🇱

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      @deadsuperhero groups, polls and events are three features that I want the most on Mastodon, these are features that I use most often on Facebook.