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1. Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Sep-2017 22:20:06 EDT Nate Cull

   1. "You can't prevent security errors with a language. Programmers *must* be allowed do unsafe things. They just need to be careful. Good programmers are always careful."

   2. "Programmers can never be 100% careful. There just *will* be errors in the code they write. That's just a fact of life. It can't be helped."

   3. "The costs of programmers' errors just *are* in the million, billion or trillion dollar range for each security flaw, which happen weekly. There absolutely is no possible fix."

   1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 14-Sep-2017 22:21:37 EDT clacke

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      @natecull shikata ga nai yo
   2. bitey cat bite bite bite bite (cybermeow@cybre.space)'s status on Thursday, 14-Sep-2017 22:22:32 EDT bitey cat bite bite bite bite

      in reply to

      @natecull I see we still havent considered more cautious networking and more stringent access control as a fix