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1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2017 12:19:22 EST Bob Mottram
   @h I don't think so, because self-driving cars make other kinds of transport system possible. One of the things being developed are systems for coordinating fleets of cars in a city such that instead of behaving like individual agents they act as a swarm and the optimisation function is systemic rather than egocentric.
   
   It might be a while though before there are automatic vehicle swarms. Leading up to that there are expected to be a couple of stages of semi-automatic driving and individual ownersip of automatic vehicles.
   1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2017 12:25:08 EST Bob Mottram

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      @h There was a point in my last job where the management briefly became interested in automatic driving systems. My view was that they didn't have the resources to do any serious development of the driving systems (you need vehicles, sensors, electrical and mechanical design, etc), but once you have automatic driving then you have the vehicle choreography problem and this brings back the classic problem of job shop scheduling. That sort of problem you can work on in simulation. Once I mentioned job shop scheduling though their eyes glazed over, because this is considered to be an old and boring problem.
   2. Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2017 12:46:12 EST Annah

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      @bob @h And a lot of rushed-to-release "autopilot" systems that will end up crashing.