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  1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 21:48:27 EST clacke clacke
    If the Pope and the President of Turkey agree that you messed up, you're on pretty shaky ground.

    http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-jerusalem-reaction-20171206-story,amp.html
    In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 21:48:27 EST from social.heldscal.la permalink

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    1. Trump's declaration of Jerusalem as Israel's capital sparks anger across Muslim world and beyond
      from latimes.com
      Fresh anger poured in from across the Muslim world Wednesday as President Trump said the United States recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a move that Arab and world leaders have warned could spark violence and destroy any hopes of reviving the Mideast peace process.
    1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 21:54:09 EST clacke clacke
      in reply to
      Even his friends-in-hairs BoJo expresses "concern".
      In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 21:54:09 EST from social.heldscal.la permalink
      1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:13:48 EST clacke clacke
        in reply to
        Apparently moving the US embassy to Jerusalem was a campaign promise.

        https://social.heldscal.la/url/1045030
        In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:13:48 EST from social.heldscal.la permalink

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        1. Trump's Jerusalem decision promises upheaval
          from CNN
          President Donald Trump's fragile political standing among American voters may be about to cause dangerous reverberations in the Middle East, even provoking the Pope to express concern.
        1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:27:17 EST clacke clacke
          in reply to
          Now this is interesting. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act of 1995 was voted through with remarkable majority. Except that Congress doesn't set foreign policy, so three successive presidents have suspended the move on a half-year basis. And DJT suspended it in June.
          In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:27:17 EST from social.heldscal.la permalink
          1. Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:29:28 EST Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
            in reply to
            @clacke Looks like you know more about US law than most domestic commenters and voters. I was unaware of JEA of 1995 until you just posted.
            In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:29:28 EST from pleroma.soykaf.com permalink
            1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:35:10 EST clacke clacke
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              @lnxw37a2 I didn't know until I saw it in the statement.

              https://social.heldscal.la/url/1045063

              > President Trump’s action enjoys broad, bipartisan support in Congress, including as expressed in the Jerusalem Recognition Act of 1995. This Act was reaffirmed by a unanimous vote of the Senate only six months ago.
              In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:35:10 EST from social.heldscal.la permalink

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              1. HOT OFF THE PRESS. Text and Analysis of Trump's Jerusalem Proclamation
                By streiff from RedState
                HOT OFF THE PRESS. Text and Analysis of Trump’s Jerusalem Proclamation
              1. clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:39:33 EST clacke clacke
                in reply to
                @lnxw37a2 So the Conservative take on this is, it means nothing, it ratifies reality, and perhaps it will set things in motion.

                A bit like voting on Trump, I guess.

                Whereas the Social-Liberal take is that this upsets a delicate balance, gives unstable groups an excuse to act out, shifts the Overton window and may ruin everything.

                A bit like voting on Trump, I guess.
                In conversation Wednesday, 06-Dec-2017 22:39:33 EST from social.heldscal.la permalink
    2. Efraim Flashner (efraim@tooot.im)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2017 06:51:24 EST Efraim Flashner Efraim Flashner
      in reply to

      @clacke
      Palestinians, already discouraged over what they describe as a consistently pro-Israel stance by the United States, said Trump’s decision essentially killed any remaining peace hopes. Leaders called for three “days of rage” culminating after Friday prayers.
      Read: be prepared for 3 days of 'spontaneous terrorism' starting on Friday.

      In conversation Thursday, 07-Dec-2017 06:51:24 EST from tooot.im permalink
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