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  1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Dec-2017 21:59:15 EST musicman musicman
    So, here's the thing. It takes me about two hours to bike to work and change in the winter. Less so in the summer, and even less in the spring and fall, but that is time I could put back into the #FLOSS community. The truth is though that time will go to blocSonic, which isn't necessarily bad. I'm able to do things like #ccma and maybe some !freeculture stuff will come out of it. I could potentially use that time to bring back #MusicManumitExtra and I could have on more #freesoftware devs in the audio space. That's something that might actually happen. Perforce is just a few of blocks away. I'd be getting almost all of that time back. However, then I'd need to workout separately, but I could maybe start playing soccer again, or go for longer cycling errand rides on the weekend.

    I never felt comfortable working for a wholly proprietary software company (www.epic.com), even if we used a lot of FLOSS internally.

    One thing I don't know is how much it would pay. Perhaps the recruiter will get back with me about a range tomorrow.
    In conversation Tuesday, 12-Dec-2017 21:59:15 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
    1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Dec-2017 22:04:21 EST musicman musicman
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      6 minute bike, 5 minute car, 13 minute walk, according to GOOG
      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Dec-2017 22:04:21 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
    2. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 21:51:14 EST musicman musicman
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      @pete @lnxw48a1 @craigmaloney thoughts? No one in my family and basically none of my friends not on the #fedeverse (#fediverse?) car about free software. I suppose there are varying degrees, but I guess ultimately I don't want to end up in a situation like at Epic, but things are so much different than they were in 2011. Epic had rural campus, and 1st Ave Minneapolis N is definitely as downtown as 1st Ave South (Hennepin is in between for those curious), but it's a far cry from being rural. This has a ton of benefits.

      I guess the biggest thing is it feels like a step backwards to me. If I'm going to do it, someone needs to convince me it's one step back, two steps forward, or just not a step back.
      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 21:51:14 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
      1. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 22:47:49 EST lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
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        @musicman I'd say you have to listen to your gut on this. If it was take this job or starve, I'd say take it without hesitation. But while you still have choices, you have to decide whether you believe you can find ways to sufficiently moderate the impact of producing products with only have proprietary licenses. @pete @craigmaloney
        In conversation Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 22:47:49 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
      2. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 22:50:37 EST lnxw48a1 lnxw48a1
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        @musicman Also, when you started working for the medical software company, was ACA even a thing yet? Even Epic might have changed in ways that might be acceptable if you were in WI instead of MN. And you have certainly changed. @pete @craigmaloney
        In conversation Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 22:50:37 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
        1. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2017 08:27:19 EST musicman musicman
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          @lnxw48a1 when I started, no. Neither was hitech. I don't think the aca changed things much. I was there when it passed. HITECH was a big deal (and was before ACA) but didn't make the company more open. Perforce is an order of magnitude smaller which makes me think the fact that I think what they are doing is immoral might stand out a bit more. Then again, I'm not really into non-coop based enterprises and that isn't much of a thing at Nagios...although things would be way different if it was worker-owned in some way. I guess the fact that I don't have a car and don't drink alcohol makes me stand out enough as it is. Maybe I just have to keep the weird factor high. :)
          In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2017 08:27:19 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
    3. musicman (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 21:52:19 EST musicman musicman
      in reply to
      @craigmaloney also, let me know if the context is weird in mastodon, and I can send a direct link.
      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Dec-2017 21:52:19 EST from nu.federati.net permalink
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