@asko Yes; Hack/HHVM is a type-strict version of PHP. But separation of logic from view is expressly what I do not want (at this point). That's too much complexity for the simple task at hand.
Removed HHVM from my box. I think I'll stick with a more traditional webapp creation language of some kind.
A real pity; XHP was the whole point for wanting to use HHVM. Separating HTML and code just creates an intellectual rift that impedes maintainability in my experience.
Tried to get a simple hello-world web page running using Hack and HHVM. Was not successful at all. Runtime installed fine; however, documentation *completely* missed the fact that I needed to install xhp-lib as a dependency if I wanted to use XHP (which was the whole point!), and to do that, I then needed yet another undocumented dependency on something called "composer" (think npm but for PHP).
I wonder if any SV investor would buy my project if it were written in Forth instead...
@iluxan This already is a new company, new start, etc. etc. Despite my technical proficiency (which I admit is never perfect, but I'd wager a far cry better than average), I seem to be thoroughly unable to keep up in a contemporary engineering environment.
I guess it's time for me to drop out of this sector and get into some kind of trade. But at my age, who'll hire? I'm basically fucked from the front and the back, and no way to escape.
I'm really getting tired of the "Forth usually takes less than 16KB of space, and gives you editor, assembler, compiler, interpreter, and kitchen sink," rhetoric.
True if, and only if, you're referring to the Z-80 CPU. It's a little bigger on a 6502, and bigger still on 68000. PygmyForth (8086 version of cmForth) needed close to 32KB as I recall. My RISC-V eForth port takes up 38KB.
If you're going to boast about binary size, please reference it to a CPU, please. It's misleading otherwise.
@crc I hear you on that! I actually am forcing myself to bed at 9PM (or, rather, trying to), so I can be more productive for work in the mornings. I've resorted to using pen and paper to write my thoughts down in a notebook, b/c otherwise, I can't bring myself to sleep. Hoping this works.
@asko@Azure As an occasional bicyclist, I can attest that cyclists get this treatment at least 10x the rate that pedestrians do. For some reason, we're seen as some sort of Mad Max-style competition. >:(
@lnxw48a1@natecull We should stop trying to reinvent the wheel all the time. IBM solved this with their mainframe assembly and PL/I syntax using annotated strings (e.g., '3C'X versus '00111100'B). Smalltalk (IIRC) has a similar generic approach (16r3C and 2r00111100), though I admit I prefer IBM's notation simply because it seems more open-ended.
@clacke I'm pleased to hear this. Just going off the previews that I've seen, it looked a little too JJ Abram's universe for me to want to consider watching it. Sounds like I might need to view the pilots.