"[FB] are not technically innovative. They depend upon an architecture subject to misuse, and the business model that supports them *is* misuse. There isn't any other business model for them. This is bad. I'm not suggesting it should be illegal, it should be obsolete. We're technologists, we should fix it." - Eben Moglen, 'Freedom in the Cloud' https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA
@alexl see the 2-3 length discussions I've had here over the year about chat apps. TL;DR Wire is #copyleft#FreeCode on both client and server side, and has plans to support #federation between Wire servers. #Electron is a downside, but they are ok with community-created clients without Electron to connect to their server (unlike #Signal, don't know about #Telegram)
"Taken as a meme, it’s a single parasite with two hosts and two forms. In an Afghan host, it appears in a form called ‘jihad’, and hijacks its host into killing himself in order to spread it to its second, American host. In the American host it morphs in a form called ‘the war on terror’, and it hijacks the Americans into giving their own lives (and tax dollars) to spread it back to its Afghan host in the form of bombs." - 'The Toxoplasma of Rage' https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/
@nutomic sure, but if there will ever be a time where people watching web video are also self-hosting something like PT, it's a long way away. A big part of PT's pitch as a YT killer is that it allows mere mortals to help the hosts whose videos they watch, without having to do any special magic. @manicphase
@clacke@wolfcoder just like the #DataFarms are the China of the net, sponsoring conferences, scholarships etc with money they essentially stole from the public (using surveillance, "intellectual property" extortion etc), taking all the credit, and using that leverage to suppress legitimate criticism of their business models.
@clacke so for example, could I use a #MetaLink file to put a music album on the web, linking to an album cover in various file sizes formats on image servers, liner notes on document servers, lyrics subtitles on a subtitle host, and the songs themselves in a variety of formats/ quality levels? @adfeno
MetaLink is not a wire protocol, it's a file format for specifying where you can find something. It can specify multiple HTTP sources and also BitTorrent, these days possibly other protocols, I haven't looked at it for a decade. It's supported by e.g. Aria and DownThemAll.
@clacke hang on, so "webseeds" are actually just normal #HTTP downloads? So if I download from a webseed, I haven't joined a swarm that I can seed to? Any good references explaining the nuts and bolts of this? Because if that's the case, putting torrent downloads on #PeerTube just makes it unnecessarily complex, they might as well only offer direct downloads in-browser. @manicphase
@jonne nothing is worth arguing about. I'm happy to continue a respectful discussion, with the goal of gaining a deeper understand of your perspective. But if you feel like you've got what you came for, no worries.
@adfeno oh no, I am *not* going down the 'debating the pros and cons of XMPP in the late 2010s' rabbit hole again ;) Please untag me from any such discussion that starts up (really must write a blog piece about this).
@ryayak1460 there's an analogy here with displays of affection. Even one of us has forms of affection we only express in private. Sex is the obvious one, but here in China it's not common for people to hug in public, or even shake hands It's not about rational choices, so much as a level of comfort necessary to allow an emotion or thought to be openly expressed. This is particularly true for people shamed or punished as children for saying "inappropriate" things. @mmin@ricardojmendez
@ryayak1460 your argument assumes that these are all *conscious* choices. The vast majority of them are not. Once you consciously believe something, you can choose whether and when to say it. But you can't choose in advance whether or not to say something you haven't even thought yet, which was my original point. @mmin@ricardojmendez
As is so often the case, there are not just 2 positions on the #FreezePeach debate, but 3 (at least): 1) SJW: when the speech of a society changes, the whole society will change. There should be laws to govern the nature and character of that speech: https://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pop+will+eat+itself/the+incredible+pwei+vs+the+moral+majority_20270617.html 2) Alt-right: folks ought to say what they want, when they want, to whoever they want, and damn the torpedoes 3) Left-lib: can't we all be honest *and* respectful, and debate our differences of opinion in good faith?
This is pretty much the same thing that happened to me about a decade ago, under disturbingly similar circumstances. Except instead of just being harassed online by #SaferSpacesPolicing, I was also kicked in the head by three people, who broke my nose, and crushed my eye socket. I almost lost an eye. I spent over a week in hospital, and I still have titanium mesh in my cheekbone. The physical wounds healed, but psychologically, I've never fully recovered.
From the RIP Culture War article on #SlateStarCodex: "I think I was a pretty nice person who was willing to listen to and try to hammer out my differences with anyone. As a result of some of what I’ve described, I think I’ve become afraid, bitter, paranoid, and quick to assume that anyone who disagrees with me (along a dimension that too closely resembles some of the really bad people I’ve had to deal with) is a bad actor who needs to be discredited and destroyed. I don’t know how to fix this."