Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 14

@Oblivia Sounds like the best possible use of a day off I can think of :)

@Oblivia Well I hope you make the most of it then :)

@Oblivia Paid? :)

@werekat Thanks excellent answer I think.

@alex You misunderstood, I'm sorry. Our lawyer will not sue you or take legal action. We just will update our ToS and not engage int he conversation futher. He will advise you as to how to update your ToS if you wish, I hope. But we are **not** taking legal action, lets be clear there.

@alex

I don't know how many different ways I can explain the issue to you.

I did not wish to opt-out of the conversation, the conversation was not the issue for me. I DID wish to opt-out of communication with one specific user.

**No** what you state here is nothing less than a lie "We don't consider it to be harassment if both users continue to engage in the conversation." I did not opt in to conversation with that particularly user I did opt in to discuss with other users. After I asked the user to stop tagging me they explicitly said no they would not and continued to tag me.

While they would have been more than welcome to reference me by name, talk about me, or discuss the topic further, they do not have the right to specifically TAG my name, particular when asked several times not to.

Compound on top of that that I took extra care, after letting the person know they were blocked to remove their tag from every reply I wished to make to people tagging me and discussing respectfully. Others are allowed to tag her back in, and she is even allowed to respond, but **not** to tag me.

This is common sense and pretty much the most minimalist definition of harassment.

@Absinthe @arteteco @Surasanji @mk

@masterofthetiger Seems logical to me, but seems to be a thing with some people at least.

Serious question:

I sometimes see Christians pray to "baby Jesus". Is there any spiritual distinction between "baby Jesus" and adult Jesus? Is one more appropriate for certain christian prayers than the other?

@LukeAlmighty depends on the instance i guess. Certainly applies to some.

@mngrif hard tacos are only good if you eat them within 2 seconds of making them :)

lol truth

#joke #jokes #meme #humor #humour

It really is ..

#humour #humor #joke #jokes #meme

@alex

No call out culture is very different.

If they wanted to talk about me behind my back and refer to meby name they would absolutely have that right and I wouldnt have an issue with it.

That is not what we are talking aobut here. We are talking about intentional repeated engagement and harassment when the targeted user has request to be left alone.

Calling out someone is not equivelant to sending spam directly to their front door as we have here.

It is actually a **very** simple issue to solve. If someone asks not to be tagged by a specific user, that user **doesnt** tag them, if they do they get banned (or a warning for first offenses).

Yes its true others might start tagging me, and again thats fine, but with each person if i ask to be untagged again the same expectation (and if they dont its harassment).

No on can blame you as a moderator for the rogue actions of one or even many of your users. But ultimately how you respond to that, if you show it is against your policy and will be enforced is ultimate whats at question.

TLDR: Users can talk about another user all they want. But if a user asks other users not to plaster their inbox with unwanted messages (specifically to be detagged from that user), then once the user has been notified they are obligated not to continue.

The issue is **not** call out culture it is not respecting a persons right to disengage when asked, period.

@Absinthe @arteteco @Surasanji @mk

@se7en

Delete and redraft to fix typos. Happens a lot.

@Absinthe @Surasanji @arteteco @alex @mk

@alex

Yes I was able to mitigate the issue by blocking the user (more severe than a mute). Though as a mod obviously i cant entirely ban a user. So by the next day when i removed the ban they kept on flooding in she had been at it all night.

Not to mention by this point many users also began following suit and started tagging me both inside and out of conversation, with others rejecting (and even mocking) my request to be left alone

Its a bit like asking "why not just manually block the spam in your email, you dont need a spam filter". Well doesnt work because this isnt an isolated instance.

Not only is the original user already in violation of continually sending messages to a user inbox without request, but since there no indication from moderators to deescalate such instances and issue warning it also means all the other users get in on it quickly.

We have seen how that mob-harassment mentality evolves (we have seen it happen to other instances and users in the past here). It is not acceptable and at a minimum the basic level of requiring for federating with an instance is a guarantee from its moderators that users who make it clear they do not want to be engaged by a particular user or group of users has that request honored.

That basic requirement is really what all this boils down to.

@Absinthe @arteteco @Surasanji @mk

@Absinthe

Your opinion. and everyones opinions matter and are valuable. Always feel free to share them so long as you do so with respect as you always have.

@arteteco @alex @Surasanji @mk