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Notices by Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe), page 2

  1. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 20:22:34 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    I agree with the idea of rooting them in the body. But just saying, "the body (brain) produces these things" is not doing the actual work, because it doesn't even try to seek structures analogous or adjecent to those that seem at first unique to subjectivity.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 20:22:34 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  2. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 20:20:30 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    I am talking about the subjective experience of decision-making which is involved in agency. Desire exists, and yes the brain had to do with it, but that is irrelevant--again, it is needed for someone to *know* their desires in the process of decision-making in order to make their decision, and yet it seems that what one desired is retroactively established after a decision has already been made. So on the one hand, there is a brute fact as you assert: it is true or false at any moment that one desires this or that. On the other hand, there is no brute fact--the truth of whether something was desired or not rests precisely on what *will* be done. How do we ground *these* kinds of structures naturally without their being at the very least an explanatory role for the ends in nature as well? Would we not otherwise end up saying that desires, goals, values, etc., are merely illusions or self-delusions?

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 20:20:30 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  3. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 19:58:47 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    It would be compatible with a structural rather than causal determinism mayhaps. I assume you mean the latter stronger version. The former is perfectly compatible.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 19:58:47 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  4. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:59:19 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • ❀eboy pry❀

    @pry
    I do it on my desktop computer because I'm willing to put up with escaping the space in terminal, but in any other situation I would avoid it.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:59:19 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  5. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:56:41 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • ❀eboy pry❀

    @pry
    I would never clean these out.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:56:41 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  6. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:52:30 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅

    Smother it all over you, too. 😌

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:52:30 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  7. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:43:10 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅

    Reminder that Marie Kondo's advise also applies to the impact of your Follows on your experience of your tl.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 17:43:10 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  8. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:53:32 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅

    Same people who complain about being harassed under the guise of politics are capable of harassing someone over even pettier shit. Hilarious. This is why I have more respect for the former. At least they know how to make an exercise of power seem as if noble as opposed to transparently pathetic.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:53:32 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  9. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:34:29 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • zeat

    @zeat @wizard
    Federated booty

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:34:29 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  10. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:32:37 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • ❀eboy pry❀

    @pry
    Cliques are two errors away from a personality cult so be glad I guess.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:32:37 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  11. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:30:44 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅

    >me blocking someone and then me talking to that person anyway

    Huh. I guess I should've just muted them. πŸ€”

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:30:44 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  12. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:22:49 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Dina
    • ❀eboy pry❀

    @pry @smotheredbyblankets
    Sounds good. The one I'm working on is pretty big though (to me) so idk if I'll get to it or not. I'm also thinking of making a Pixelfed Android client down the line.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:22:49 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  13. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:17:03 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Dina
    • ❀eboy pry❀

    @smotheredbyblankets @pry
    Yeah. I've always had this. It is a difficult habit to break! πŸ˜… And maybe I should make another programming or web project like that. lol

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:17:03 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  14. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:04:47 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • star star baby
    • opal
    • kaikatsu

    @wowaname @kaikatsu @xj9 @nik

    Yeah. I'm not into the witch hunt thing.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 16:04:47 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  15. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:42:11 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    Sounds like you skew towards the "local hidden variables" hypothesis a bit, at least implicitly.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:42:11 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  16. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:21:28 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    This is why those mathematical relations can never tell you the initial state. You need the facf of initial state as well as the equation to make predictions.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:21:28 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  17. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:20:07 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    See, but I don't think it is accurate to say these mathematical relations are laws of nature, which are not only rules but explanatory universal rules of efficient causation. When the maths break down (like at the singularity of a black hole), different maths are required. Mathematics are universal in that an equation is universally true, and not in that they universally apply in describing (in this case physical) states of affairs. The other problem with that is that they actually don't tell us anything about the interactive behavior objects have, technically. This is something we extrapolate They just tell us that under a set of cases, there will be these structural simolarities. So it doesn't tell us why x lead to y. It tells us that both x and y are of a certain relationship, and why this relationship also apploes for each of their elements.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:20:07 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  18. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:04:02 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    Efficient causation is not about efficiency; it is sometimes also called the agential cause: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_causes

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 15:04:02 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  19. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 14:44:14 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    Any framework that does not use ends or outcomes as a form of retrospective explanation, or any framework in which the future does not itself have causal efficacy over the present and past.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 14:44:14 EDT from niu.moe permalink
  20. Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ (mrjunge@niu.moe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2019 07:49:47 EDT Alister Braunkers 🇩🇴🇺🇸🇯🇵 Alister Braunkers πŸ‡©πŸ‡΄πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
    • Paradox

    @Paradox
    Think about Kuhn's characterization of scientific models not even having to be consistent with each other to be equally true, as long as they retain their specific context (the objects of description). And models are where we build up our laws. Of course some will say that there is a TOE, because nonetheless there *are* laws of nature independ of our models that can be discovered. But this does not have anything to do with what our scientific results say so far.

    In conversation Friday, 12-Jul-2019 07:49:47 EDT from niu.moe permalink
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