Notices by Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social), page 9

@elmiko I think that's probably accurate

A lot of this is driven by my personal excitement/passion though, hence why I think that my ability to take it on in JS is predicated on having a lispy interface to it :)

(That's not to say that what rms said in particular this time isn't deeply... troubling and significant, just that the pattern and the difficult situation it puts us in is what I'm interested in bringing to light to my fellow activists.)

I'm not as interested in discussing the details of what RMS said this time as I am in recognizing this as a regularly occuring pattern of behavior, and how hard it makes life for the FOSS community to push for the ideals we collectively believe in.

If a single person or organization in the environmental movement does something that seems deeply problematic, it doesn't feel like it threatens the end of environmentalism.

So how did we end up in this state? How can we change that?

Agoric, for instance, probably has built almost all the right infrastructure to build and trade stamps immediately. And it's being built by the experts in the field.

Damn, I've really had a lot of fun working on Goblins and I think it's a really interesting infrastructure. I don't really want to throw all that away.

But we're in early enough stages there to where I could do it.

Now one possible solution is to just build a lisp-like syntax on top of Agoric's Jessie. Then I'd probably be happy enough! And that may be less work than duplicating work in my Racket ecosystem, even if it seems silly. Plus it means that non-lisp users could easily contribute to the system.

But... it's a pivot. I'm hesitant about making another pivot. But it's probably the right one? I'm unsure.

Community feedback welcome.

I had a conversation with Mark Miller while at RWoT. Should Spritely be written on top of Agoric? From a duplicating work standpoint, probably.

Except I don't like working with Javascript! I'm a known lisp enthusiast. And I'm not very productive unless I'm happy in my hacking environment.

But MarkM pointed out that Agoric has worked on Jessie, a subset of Javascript that is closer to Scheme: https://github.com/Agoric/Jessie (Not entirely, but it is more beautiful)

(cotd ...)

Here is a big fight I am going to have to make with myself ahead. And actually, I can use community input.

The current plan for Spritely has been for me to use the tools I am writing in Racket. I've been very happy hacking in Racket personally and the tooling is coming along.

However, I am duplicating work that the Agoric folks are doing in making an ocap secure substrate rich enough to do this stuff: https://agoric.com/

Except... their stuff is in Javascript. (cotd ...)

@davidak I chose the latter, but I have guilt about it. It wasn't easy; MediaGoblin *was* my identity for many years. Ultimately I think I made the right choice, but I still feel guilty abou tit.

@davidak MediaGoblin's donors made ActivityPub happen. There wouldn't have been enough resources to be able to balance that work and allow us to initially justify it otherwise.

I feel guilty that I stepped back after the standards ended, but I needed to take stock of what the most important thing I could do next was: continue MediaGoblin (even now that Peertube and etc picked up AP) or try to pave a path for all the stuff the fediverse couldn't do yet but needs to?

@rin nice score :)

@Thib what honk you done

I'm taking today as a mostly-weekend day by hacking, but hacking on something fun.

Then later today @tmarble and I will be talking about finishing the RWoT paper on secure UIs.