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  1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Friday, 09-Mar-2018 15:32:05 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • Adam
    The Green Party, both federally and provincially, identifies itself as "Socially progressive, fiscally conservative". So they're in favour of all the good leftist things, without bankrupting the economy to pay for it.
    In conversation Friday, 09-Mar-2018 15:32:05 EST from web permalink
  2. solariiknight(ஆனந்த்) (solariiknight@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2018 05:41:01 EST solariiknight(ஆனந்த்) solariiknight(ஆனந்த்)
    • India
    https://medium.com/@CarDroidusMax/proud-to-be-apolitical-935a3ace5177
    In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2018 05:41:01 EST from social.systemreboot.net permalink Repeated by bobjonkmangreen

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    1. Proud to be “apolitical”? – The Last Caveman – Medium
      from Medium
      There’s saying that, “in politics there are no enemies, just opponents”, i.e. its the ideas that need to be opposed, not the person. Or…
  3. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 17:29:35 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • therubackup
    When I read "expensive brackets" I was sure it was a message about #Lisp
    In conversation Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 17:29:35 EST from web permalink
  4. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 17:08:17 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
    Tonight at 7pm join the @WR_Greens, Green Parties from all five #WaterlooRegion ridings, to discuss our plans for the upcoming Provincial Election in June https://gs.jonkman.ca/url/53604 #GPO #ONpoli
    In conversation Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 17:08:17 EST from web permalink

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    1. WR Greens Election Planning Meeting — Thursday, 15 February 2018
      By Sam Nabi from wrgreens

      The 2018 Ontario election is fast approaching, and it’s time to get ready. People are hungry for a different kind of politics – one based on honesty and integrity. Mike Schreiner and the Green Party of Ontario will bring that refreshing voice.

      This Thursday, the five local Green Party ridings are coming together to plan our next few months. Join Stacey Danckert, candidate for Kitchener Centre, and Zdravko Gunjevic, candidate for Waterloo, in this open meeting.

      What: Election planning meeting
      When: Thursday, 15 February 2018, 7:00pm – 9:00pm
      Where: Re/Max Office
      Location: 720 Westmount Rd East, Kitchener Map

      The agenda will include:

      • brainstorming goals for the election
      • building a pathway to achieve those goals

      All are welcome. Please bring along anyone who would like to contribute! The Green Party is committed to grassroots decisionmaking, and we are going to build a campaign that resonates for people here in Waterloo Region.

      Check out the Green Party of Ontario priorities to get a feel for the party’s policy priorities. If you have any ideas or questions in the meantime, just send an e-mail to kitchenercentre@gpo.ca

      See you there!

      Sam Nabi
      Communications Chair, Kitchener Centre

  5. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:39:47 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • Bryan Lunduke
    I specifically did not say that. Please don't put words in my mouth.
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:39:47 EST from web permalink
  6. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:34:22 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • Bryan Lunduke
    By making that demand we've already lost any hope of meaningful discussion.
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:34:22 EST from web permalink
  7. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:12:32 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • Bryan Lunduke
    You can listen to the entire presentation at "Audio from Cross Cultures “our FREEDOMS a lively interactive town hall” with @DimitriLascaris, Rehab Nazzal and Wendy Goldsmith" /cc @BryanLunduke https://gs.jonkman.ca/url/52063
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:12:32 EST from web permalink

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      Audio from Cross Cultures "our FREEDOMS a lively interactive town hall" with @DimitriLascaris, Rehab Nazzal and Wendy Goldsmith
      By KWPeace from KWPeace
      Audio from Cross Cultures “our FREEDOMS a lively interactive town hall” with @DimitriLascaris, Rehab Nazzal and Wendy Goldsmith
  8. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:08:05 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • Bryan Lunduke
    This is #Apartheid -- excluding certain people based on race or religion. The sign reads, in part "This passage is designated for Israelis only. It is forbidden to drive any non-Israeli through this checkpoint!" /cc @BryanLunduke https://gs.jonkman.ca/attachment/52062
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:08:05 EST from web permalink

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  9. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:01:47 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    Destruction of Palestinian olive farms. /cc @BryanLunduke https://gs.jonkman.ca/attachment/52059
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:01:47 EST from web permalink

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  10. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:00:57 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    The government of Israel is occupying and settling territory that was set aside for Palestinians displaced by the creation of Israel in 1948. Palestinians are not allowed to use roads set aside for Israelis. A wall has been erected, not to keep Israelis out of the Palestinian territories, but to keep the Palestinians out of Israel. Palestinian olive groves are demolished for Israeli settlement areas. Palestinian homes are destroyed as collective punishment. https://gs.jonkman.ca/attachment/52058
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 18:00:57 EST from web permalink

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  11. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 16:39:45 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    There is the issue of #Apartheid. It may be the case that a country that only recently eliminated its policy of apartheid accepting the help of another country that's openly practising apartheid by colonialists against an indigenous population in violation of the 4th Geneva Convention and the UN Declaration of Human Rights is a worse ethical choice than running out of water.
    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2018 16:39:45 EST from web permalink
  12. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 02:07:05 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
    Trudy Beaulne, my friend and fellow social justice activist has passed away. I will miss her. https://gs.jonkman.ca/url/41710
    In conversation Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 02:07:05 EST from web permalink

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      Trudy Beaulne, Executive Director of the Social Development Centre, has passed away
      By Bob Jonkman from KWPeace
      Trudy Beaulne, Executive Director of the Social Development Centre, has passed away
  13. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2018 15:23:34 EST Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
    • Bob Jonkman
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    • Nolan
    I am not the Bob of whom @Nolan speaks https://nolanlawson.com/2018/01/02/decentralized-identity-and-decentralized-social-networks/ (but I do maintain two accounts, @BobJonkman for most of my work and leisure, and @BobJonkmanGreen, woefully underutilized for my political activity)
    In conversation Sunday, 07-Jan-2018 15:23:34 EST from web permalink Repeated by bobjonkmangreen

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    1. Decentralized identity and decentralized social networks
      By Nolan Lawson from Read the Tea Leaves

      I’d like to tell you a story about Bob. Bob is a fairly ordinary, upstanding citizen. Bob also has a lot of hobbies.

      Bob is a good father, so one of his hobbies is to coach his son’s little-league team. Bob is careful to enforce a certain set of rules during the games and at the after-game pizza parties. If one of the kids uses a curse word or bullies another kid, Bob is expected to intervene and apply the appropriate discipline.

      Bob is also a Christian. When he’s in church on Sundays, there’s another set of rules, both implicit and explicit, that Bob is expected to abide by. For instance, it’s okay for Bob to confide in other churchgoers about his momentary lapses of faith, or about his struggles to understand certain Bible passages. But if Bob started quoting Richard Dawkins or loudly preaching atheism, he’d probably create a very awkward scene, and may even get kicked out of church.

      Bob also happens to be a vegetarian, and he attends a monthly vegetarian meetup. Within this group, there’s an entirely different set of rules and norms at play. Bob is careful not to talk too much about his favorite recipes involving cheese, eggs, or honey, because he knows that there’s a sizable minority of vegans in the group who may be offended. It would also be completely unacceptable to talk about a juicy steak dinner, even though this topic of conversation may be perfectly acceptable within the church or the little-league team.

      Bob also has a set of old college buddies that he occasionally meets up with at the local bar. Here, once again, an entirely different set of norms apply. Raunchy jokes and curse words are not only allowed – they’re encouraged. Open debate about religion is tolerated. Bob may even be able to let his vegetarian guard down and talk about a delicious steak dinner he ate in a moment of weakness.

      One Bob out of many

      Bob intuitively understands these different norms and contexts, and he effortlessly glides from one to the other. It’s as if there’s a switch in his brain that activates as soon as he walks through the church doors or into the bar.

      Furthermore, nobody accuses Bob of being dishonest or duplicitous for acting this way. In fact, everything described above is such a fundamental, everyday part of the human experience that it’s downright boring.

      Now Bob goes online. Suddenly, every social network is telling him that he should have exactly one identity, speak in one voice, and abide by one set of rules. Mark Zuckerberg says, “Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity.” OKCupid says, “We want you […] to go by who you are, and not be hidden beneath another layer of mystique.” Eric Schmidt says, “If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place.”

      Bob is apparently expected to use his real name, and use one account, and present a single public face for every possible context and social situation.

      Intuitively, Bob knows this is bullshit. We all know it’s bullshit. But in the online world, we’ve just learned to put up with it.

      Identity on social networks

      Now let’s step away from Bob for a moment and talk about how the rest of us deal with this problem.

      One of the common coping mechanisms is to fracture ourselves into different silos. We use Slack to talk to our coworkers, Discord to chat with our gamer buddies, LinkedIn for professional talk, Twitter for talking about the news, Facebook for talking with our family, and so on. Folks who follow this strategy may use a completely different voice in each platform and may not even reveal their real names.

      With decentralized social networks, though, the situation gets more interesting. On platforms like Mastodon, Pleroma, GNU Social, postActiv, and others, you sign up for a particular “instance” representing a self-contained community. This community may have its own rules, its own culture, and even its own emojis and theme color.

      However, each instance isn’t walled off from the outside world. Instead, it has tendrils that can reach into any other community it may be connected to. It’s less like the isolated silos of Facebook, Twitter, and Slack, and more like a cluster of small towns with some well-traveled roads between them.

      Some folks look at Mastodon as a mere replacement for Twitter. Maybe for them it’s Twitter for lefties, or Twitter for anime artists, or Twitter for a nationalist agenda. It’s really none of these things, though, and I think importantly it has the potential to address one of the biggest problems with online identity: context collapse.

      Context collapse

      “Context collapse” was first coined by danah boyd, and a good description of it can be found in a blog post by Michael Wesch.

      The basic idea is this: when human beings converse in person, we use a wide variety of unwritten rules to govern the acceptable boundaries of the conversation. We pick up on subtle nonverbal cues such as someone’s posture, their hand gestures, and their degree of eye contact to choose the right “register” for the conversation. We might even switch between different dialects of the same language, depending on who we’re talking to (linguists call this “code-switching”).

      All of this happens automatically and intuitively, and it’s a valuable tool for avoiding ambiguities and misunderstandings. There are entire subfields of linguistics that study how humans communicate this way, such as pragmatics and sociolinguistics.

      Online, we have none of this context. Staring into the webcam or into the textbox on a social media site, we are simultaneously addressing everyone and no one, for now and for all time. Factor in character limits, upload limits, and just the limits of human attention, and this is a ripe environment for misunderstandings. Sarcasm, facetiousness, irony, playful ribbing between friends – all of it can be lost on your audience if they don’t have the proper context to guide them.

      Here are some of the symptoms of context collapse that you may have experienced:

      • jokes are misunderstood and taken at face value
      • in-jokes between friends are perceived as harassment by outsiders
      • you accidentally offend someone when no offense was intended
      • something you say is taken out of context and used for dogpiling
      • you feel like you have to censor yourself online
      • you agonize over every character and punctuation mark to avoid misinterpretation

      All of these situations can be frustrating or even harmful to your mental health. Consider Justine Sacco’s poorly-received joke that cost her her job and brought her a lot of mental anguish.

      Fracturing ourselves into siloed social networks, in its own ham-handed way, offers a solution to this problem. Instead of just hoping that our readers will pick up on the context, we rely on the context granted by the social network itself. Discord is for gamers, LinkedIn is for professionals, Slack is for coworkers, etc.

      But on decentralized social networks, we may have a more elegant solution to this problem, and one that doesn’t require locking up our identities into various proprietary silos.

      Solving context collapse on decentralized social media

      The notion that you should use a single identity online is, I believe, a holdover from the centralized social media sites. Their goal is to get you to reveal as much information about yourself as possible (to sell it to advertisers), so of course they would discourage you from having multiple accounts or from concealing your real name. But that doesn’t mean decentralized social networks need to be the same.

      Instead of treating your identity “on Mastodon” or “on the fediverse” as a single entity, what if you had multiple identities on multiple instances, and you treated them as distinct? What might that look like?

      I figured this out myself over the past year or so, as I largely split my online identity on Mastodon into two accounts: @nolan@mastodon.social and @nolan@toot.cafe.

      The tone of the two accounts is completely different. @nolan@mastodon.social makes silly jokes and mostly writes in all lowercase. @nolan@toot.cafe talks about software, programming, and his day job, and tends to use proper punctuation. (It’s more like the voice of this blog.)

      The reason for this split is partly historical. @nolan@mastodon.social tends to speak only in jokes because it was my first Mastodon account, and when I signed up I didn’t reveal my full name or tie it back to my real-world identity. Instead, I just tried to have fun, making as many silly jokes as I could and seeing what landed and what didn’t. I’d say I did fairly well, since at one point I had the most-favorited Mastodon post of all time and got quoted twice in this article on Mastodon.

      When I set up my own instance, though, things started to get complicated. Now I had an admin account, @nolan@toot.cafe, and I needed to talk about serious admin stuff: when was the server going down for maintenance, what was our privacy policy, what was our moderation policy, etc. So for that account, I switched to my professional voice so that folks could understand that I wasn’t joking or being sarcastic.

      But I still had @nolan@mastodon.social for the silly stuff. And the more I used it, the more I found that I liked the split. People who followed me on @nolan@mastodon.social didn’t necessarily care about Mastodon admin topics (memory usage, systemd, Ruby, etc.) – maybe they only followed me for the fun stuff. Likewise, people who followed me on @nolan@toot.cafe maybe just wanted to keep up-to-date on Mastodon admin and development (especially as I started contributing to the Mastodon codebase itself), and didn’t care for the jokes.

      Keeping my identities separate thus served a few purposes:

      • I could have fun with people who didn’t know or care about tech topics (e.g. my wife, who loves my jokes but finds tech boring).
      • Nobody had to wonder when I was being sarcastic and when I was being serious.
      • People who followed me for tech stuff didn’t have to put up with my jokes if they didn’t like my sense of humor.
      • People who liked both my jokes and my tech talk could still follow me on both accounts.

      This process wasn’t without its hurdles, though. At one point I was using fairly similar avatars for each account:

      My original Mastodon account avatars. Could you tell the difference between the two?

      Eventually, though, I got tired of people not picking up on the sarcasm in my joke account. So I switched to an avatar that could only be interpreted as something silly:

      My new, unambiguously “zany” Mastodon avatar.

      Taking this avatar seriously would be like arguing with the “We Rate Dogs” account on Twitter. The new avatar makes the intent of the account much clearer.

      Am I being duplicitous? No, I link between the two accounts on my profile pages, so everyone can figure out that both accounts are me.

      Is it hard to juggle two different accounts? No, I use separate browser tabs, and since toot.cafe has its own theme color, it’s easy for me to remember which site I’m on.

      Is it hard for others to know which Nolan to talk to? Well, sort of. When my wife wants to post something like “@nolan said to me today…” she tends to use my @nolan@mastodon.social account because she has more fun interacting with that account than with my serious one. But other than that, I haven’t really run into any problems with this system.

      Previously, I was also running a French-language account at @nolan@mastodon.xyz, but I found this a bit hard to manage. I didn’t have a network of French-speaking friends I was regularly talking to, and most of the francophones on Mastodon can speak English anyway. Also, managing three social media accounts was just a bit too much of a time investment for me.

      Instance policies and identity

      Right now I have a simple two-account system, and my choice of instance for each account is fairly arbitrary. (Although toot.cafe is somewhat tech- and programming-themed, so talking about computery stuff there feels very natural.) However, you could imagine tailoring an account to its home instance, based on the instance’s theme or moderation policies.

      Going back to the Bob example, let’s imagine that Bob sets up four instances:

      1. An instance for his son’s little-league team, which is closed off from most of the fediverse via whitelisting and has very strict moderation policies to ensure it stays kid-friendly. All of the parents have moderator accounts.
      2. An instance for his church group. The moderation policies reflect Christian values, and although you can talk openly about your faith, it’s advised to use Content Warnings for controversial topics.
      3. An instance for his vegetarian meetup. You’re encouraged to take pictures of your food, but pictures of meat dishes are strictly off-limits. Vegetarian (non-vegan) food photos are okay, but should be hidden behind a “sensitive” tag.
      4. A free-for-all instance for his drinking buddies. Anything goes, say whatever racy or off-color joke pops into your head, but be aware of the consequences – such as the fact that other instances might not want to federate with you. You might also want to use a pseudonym here instead of your real name.

      Bob could create a separate account on all four instances, and he might speak in a very different voice on each of them. If he’s an admin or a moderator, he may even enforce very different policies, and he might choose different instances to block or silence. In fact, one of his instances may even block the other! Via whitelisting, the kid-friendly one certainly blocks the drinking-buddies instance.

      Bob’s not doing anything wrong here. He’s not a hypocrite. He’s not being deceitful. He’s just taking exactly the same logic that we use in the real world, and applying it to the online world.

      Conclusion

      It’s unreasonable to expect people to speak in the same voice in every social setting offline, so it’s equally unreasonable to ask them to do it online.

      In the world of centralized social networks, users have responded to “real name policies” and “please use one account” by fracturing themselves into different proprietary silos. On decentralized social networks, we can continue fracturing ourselves based on instances, but these disparate identities are allowed to comingle a bit, thanks to the magic of federation.

      I don’t expect everyone to use the same techniques I use, such as having a joke account and a serious account. For some people, that’s just too much of an investment in social media, and it’s too hard to juggle more than one account. But I think it’s a partial solution to the problem of context collapse, and although it’s a bit of extra effort, it can pay dividends in the form of fewer misunderstandings, fewer ambiguities, and less confusion for your readers.

  14. It's a blue-eyed Matthew-cat! (starbreaker@octodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2017 14:24:18 EST It's a blue-eyed Matthew-cat! It's a blue-eyed Matthew-cat!

    The idea behind salaried employment is that I'm supposed to put in the time needed to get the job done.

    If it takes more than 40 hours a week, I'm supposed to suck it up and deal with it.

    But if I finish my work in less than 40 hours, or management doesn't give me 40 hours of work in a given week, I'm stuck sitting in the fucking office with fuck-all to do. But I still need to look busy to justify my place in the company payroll.

    Fuck #jobs. I want #basicincome.

    In conversation Thursday, 16-Nov-2017 14:24:18 EST from octodon.social permalink Repeated by bobjonkmangreen
  15. Michael F. Lamb (datagrok@tiny.tilde.website)'s status on Thursday, 26-Oct-2017 14:43:34 EDT Michael F. Lamb Michael F. Lamb

    If guaranteed minimum income and universal healthcare were a thing, I think so many of my programmer colleagues would immediately take low-income sabbaticals to write high-quality good-ui users-first free and open source software that it would inspire tedious "how was it possible?!?" medium dot com thinkpieces for years and years

    In conversation Thursday, 26-Oct-2017 14:43:34 EDT from tiny.tilde.website permalink Repeated by bobjonkmangreen
  16. Adam (inkslinger@mastodon.club)'s status on Thursday, 26-Oct-2017 11:14:00 EDT Adam Adam

    Sometimes I think it would be great to move to a Nordic country for all the glorious social democratic stuff. Then I realize I'm a monolingual anglophone who is uncomfortable with change and think, hmm, maybe I should just try to make that stuff happen in my own country.

    In conversation Thursday, 26-Oct-2017 11:14:00 EDT from mastodon.club permalink Repeated by bobjonkmangreen
  17. D Dino (garbados@toot.cat)'s status on Thursday, 26-Oct-2017 12:41:48 EDT D Dino D Dino

    if society can't afford to end poverty then how tf can it afford billionaires

    In conversation Thursday, 26-Oct-2017 12:41:48 EDT from toot.cat permalink Repeated by bobjonkmangreen
  18. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkmangreen@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Sunday, 22-Oct-2017 19:17:07 EDT Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
    At the #Kitchener Centre and #Waterloo Green Party Nomination Meetings today: Congratulations to Stacey Danckert @StaceyDanckert@twitter.com and Zdravko Gunjevic @Zdravko_G@twitter.com, and good luck in the #Ontario2018 election! #GPO #GreenParty https://gs.jonkman.ca/attachment/15104
    In conversation Sunday, 22-Oct-2017 19:17:07 EDT from web permalink

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