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1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 18:39:51 EST David Hunt
   I just installed #GNU Jami onto this @ubuntu_mate machine. https://social.mayfirst.org/url/1918521 #VOIP #Distributed #Conferencing #communications My username is Dave_H as yet, I have no contacts. Who wants to be my first experimental subject? Hahahaha. FYI, the project used to be known as #GNU Ring. I was able to make my account with no assistance, though found a few unlabeled controls, and a couple of toggles that had to be reached and activated using orca's flat review to emulate mouse clicks. #a11y #blindness #blind
   1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 19:28:23 EST mangeurdenuage

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      I've used ring for a few years now here's an id if you want to test it with me:
      8f0ececfa349b89e15b26b1e52434ced36a35642
      1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 20:37:30 EST David Hunt

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         Thanks for the id; can't seem to add it to my contact list. I pasted it into the search thing and hit 'enter', nothing happens.
         1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 20:40:35 EST mangeurdenuage

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            Strange, I added "Dave_H " and it worked, I just sent you a message.
            1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 20:47:41 EST David Hunt

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               Webkit process crashed. Could not find your message text, nor could I find options like 'call'. I see, now, that you are in my contact list, but only as your hash.
               1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 20:49:46 EST mangeurdenuage

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                  It still says to me that you are online.
               2. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 20:52:07 EST mangeurdenuage

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                  Ring crashed, I tried to fiddle with the quality settings.
   2. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 19:41:33 EST Bob Jonkman

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      I'll play! I'm "bobjonkman" -- I searched for "Dave_H", added the contact, but can't send you a message. Maybe you need to add me first?
      1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 19:42:45 EST Bob Jonkman

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         My first thought about #Jami is "Oh no, not another #IncompatibleWithEverythingElse chat client. Seems lighter than #Wire, tho, so that's a thing in its favour.
      2. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 00:59:46 EST David Hunt

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         I still can't figure out how to use this thing! Not sure whether I had it on or not, since I cannot seem to find the tray icon for it, so, just relaunched from the menu system. Does it have to be running in Gnome? I'm using Mate.
         1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 08:26:41 EST Bob Jonkman

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            I'm using #Mate as well, and it works for me, but I am visually dependent. #Jami offers no clues about keystroke shortcuts, and doesn't have the standard "File, Edit, Options, Help" style menu. It does not seem to have any navigation accessibility.
            1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 08:29:59 EST Bob Jonkman

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               I got your messages, which are labelled "7 hour ago" (no real timestamps, not even any mouseover popups). I was idling, but away from the computer. Now when I try to send a reply the text has a red background and a graphical X beside it, but no indication what that means. Probably that you're not online right now. @davehunt
               1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 08:32:10 EST Bob Jonkman

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                  With the inaccessible UI problems, the lack of store-and-forward messaging, and its lack of interoperability with other messaging protocols, I doubt I'll be using #Jami much longer. But it would be nice to have at least one exchange with someone! @davehunt
                  1. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 11:19:04 EST David Hunt

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                     Same here; I'll give it a bit more time, but it looks like it's not really ready for anyone. #jami
               2. David Hunt (davehunt@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 11:16:57 EST David Hunt

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                  When you sent this, I was not online; will turn it on, and see what happens.
            2. AmarOk (amarok@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 10:09:37 EST AmarOk

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               @bobjonkman @davehunt @bobjonkman I hope bridges are coming this year. I currently have bridges with Discord/IRC/mattermost and a SIP account so it's still compatible with a lot of things but just for me.

               For accessibility, a blind person can use Jami (at least last time we had some feedback, I think the mail is still on the ML) (with the screen reader on via the hidden labels). But yeah I need to add more keystroke shortcuts... never had the time to do that.

   3. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 21:08:54 EST mangeurdenuage

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      We'll continue when I'll be rested, in the meantime, good night o/ .
   4. lnxw48a1 (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 04:41:32 EST lnxw48a1

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      @davehunt @bobjonkman I still have it installed under its old name #Ring. I'm not often online, because none of my contacts use it any more, but I'm "lnxw37" there.