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@witchfynderfinder I'm seeing small arduinos going for $4 each on amazon, and those are the consumer prices. Getting them for $0.10/ea on alibaba means you need to order at least modest volume at once.
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@witchfynderfinder It strikes me as a bit low too, but it's hard to say. The company profile makes it look kinda like they buy up excess stock on the cheap and just dump it as fast as they can. Still, even if it's say $1 a chip, a non-iot lightbulb is still several times that cost.
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@witchfynderfinder Oops, just realize you may not be american. quarter == ~25mm
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@witchfynderfinder Looking at alibaba, there's a seller with a decent rating providing quarter-sized microcontrollers with wifi chips for 10 cents a piece. The only thing that it's missing is a power control circuit and you've got your IoT lightbulb right there.
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@zvinj That's the question though. With all the high profile problems with IoT stuff that's making people nervous about adopting, it seems odd that nobody's going this route. My only thought is that the investors don't like it because they're no continuous revenue stream by selling subscriptions or mining data.
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@witchfynderfinder Even a pi would be total overkillin anything but the theoretical master box. I'm talking real AVR microcontrollers: the only thing most of the actual devices are doing is sitting in a loop and changing the amount of power that runs through to the real thing when a signal is received.
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@clacke So Okazaki's entire career is "[western word] [japanese warrior]"?
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@witchfynderfinder I'm not so sure: all your cost is going to be salaries unless you're a dumbass who tries to set up in SF or the valley. The actual hardware to do IoT should be more or less down to commodity prices, just microcontrollers to obey signals from a master and wifi chips (or something else) to connect them up.
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@devurandom Additional NAT *would* be problem of course, but that's the only problem; is there really no protocol for establishing a connection behind NATs? How does, say, bittorrent do it?
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@witchfynderfinder Exactly. It's an area I'd be really interested in too, but kicking off my own startup right after uni with no business experience probably isn't a good look :)
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@devurandom Why do they need to remember their IP address and port? Your phone syncs when you're on the same LAN as your IoT box. The only time when there may be a disconnect is if there's an ip address change while you're away from home, and IP address changes, at least in the US, are fairly rare.
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Okay for real though, why isn't not-shit IoT a thing? Like here's a crazy idea: we sell you a box that does IoT things....and it doesn't phone home. If you want to get *really* crazy, we sell you a box which autoconfigures DNS and does UPnP with your router to let you use remote IoT features without phoning home.
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Live playing some ps1 games: http://twitch.tv/tekktonic_
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Since we're getting towards that time of the year, a tip: put some ground cardamom in your hot chocolate :)
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@pedro2 Yes, I was talking about turkish coffee. I'd just made some when I asked the question :)
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@zoowar Like pimento cheese or its own thing?
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Drunk strategy games http://twitch.tv/tekktonic_
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Did we ever figure out what was going on with the whole SFC/SFLC thing?
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@mike You have a smartphone right? It'd be easier to OCR and correct than retype.
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