Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 153

@mlg #OWS was just the Anglophone section of that wave of uprising, and one of the later ones that year, following the Arab Spring and the May 15 movement in Spain. I'd also include earlier uprisings like the pots and pans revolution in Iceland, and later ones like the umbrella movement in Hong Kong and the sunflower movement in Taiwan.

@mlg the medium is the message I guess ;-) The #fediverse is great for link sharing and pub chat, but I find
it hard to have discussions of any depth in chunks of 500 chars or less, with a feeling of time pressure to reply before the last replies get lost in the in the constant torrents from the firehose

@dazinism Vodafone 785 and Android 4.2.2. Not sure what you mean by "work profile" and "personal profile".

@dantheclamman surely being updated matters for every piece of software? I suspect not being updated is why it has known security vulnerabilities that remain unpatched. I also guess that how serious those vulnerabilities are depends on what permissions it has.

That's great to hear @bhaugen and sounds like a creative hybrid solution to the challenge I was identifying :-)
@StephR

@jim that's what a lot of people assume about cannabis smoke. Turns out it's not the case. But again, "harmful" is relative. More harmful than never smoking in the first place? Probably. More harmful than breathing car exhaust while walking or cycling? Maybe. More harmful than continuing to smoke tobacco? Unlikely.

@jim what I'm trying to figure out is how to sort the truth about the pros and cons of vaping from both the commercial PR, and the prohibitionist FUD. I personally know many people who have given up tobacco by switching to non-nicotine vaping. I'm also sceptical about the claimed harms of vaping nicotine, which I'm guessing are probably similar to those of drinking strong coffee, although I'm open to being presented with evidence contradicting that.

@jim "safe" is a very relative concept. Drinking alcohol isn't inherently safe, neither is bungee-jumping. Letting people drive gunless tanks (or "cars") around in places where people walk and cycle, pumping out carbon monoxide as they go, is unsafe in a number of ways, both short-term and long-term. But we accept people doing these things. We even let some people profit from and promote them, within frameworks of best practice and regulation intended to minimize harm.

Really not sure what to make of the whole vaping thing. My core ethic is 'do what you will, harm none', so my default position has been to support it. But ...
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/16/16658358/vape-lobby-vaping-health-risks-nicotine-big-tobacco-marketing

@dantheclamman however, apparently #DiskUsage hasn't been updated for a year, and F-Droid says it has a "weak security signature" and "known security vulnerabilities". I guess since I'm using an unsupported version of #Android and kind of assuming it's not secure, maybe that doesn't matter?

Thanks @dantheclamman , found it on #FDroid:
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.google.android.diskusage/

@clacke @imani
> "They actually want to try to progress with the game without chopping down any trees or damage the rainforest for them. We don't take that option away from players completely, but we give them incentives to leave nature as it is. The Māori get extra production resources from having 'unimproved' rainforest, for example."

Awesome! I always thought that the option of being a hunter-gatherer using 'forest gardening' was missing from the Civilization games. This is great.

So in summary, a collaboration between a major manufacturer of mobile devices and provider of internet services, and an industry-friendly research group, has produced a paper - not yet peer-reviewed - whose only conclusion is that we should all be more skeptical of the large body of research indicating that mobile devices and internet services could be causing people some harm. So why is Rachel Becker, "science reporter" at #Verge, so keen to publish on this?
https://www.theverge.com/authors/rachel-becker

I wonder who is funding this research, and brokering the agreement with Apple to access their data? Curiously, one of the authors is one Brittany I. Davidson from the "IDO Division" of the School of Management at Bath Uni. A quick web search turns up the Information, Decisions, and Operations Division, a group which appears to be fairly ... let's say industry-friendly:
https://www.bath.ac.uk/research-groups/information-decisions-and-operations-division/

As it turns out, the abstract of the (not yet peer reviewed) paper the Verge article is reporting on doesn't specify whether self-reporting was leading to over-estimates or under-estimates of screen time either. Most of the authors are academics working out of university psychology departments in the UK, don't they think that's an important part of their results to report?
https://psyarxiv.com/6fjr7

The article implies that screen time has been over-estimated in studies that depend on self-reporting, but it never actually says so. This seems like an important detail. Did I just miss it, or did this article completely fail to say whether the research its covering reports over-estimation or under-estimation of screen time from self-reporting?
https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/5/18126154/screen-time-smartphones-bad-health-risk-science-study-wrong-depression-anxiety

Now the #Trisquel forums are still unavailable (blocked by the #GreatFirewall?), but trisquel.info itself is available. Curiouser and curiouser ...

@mlg also, you seem to assume a style of revolution that resembles Soviet Russian or Mao's China. Can you please find me anyone under the age of 60 who actually advocates for that style of revolution? Modern anti-capitalist resistance is more likely to resemble more recent, global patterns of uprisings, like 1968, or 2011. But it won't be the same as these, because the people involved will try to learn from their successes and failures.

@mlg
> what else will happen once enough people "join the revolution against capitalism"

That very much depends on:
* how people define and understand capitalism
* how people decide to resist capitalism
* what people decide to replace capitalism with

... and all of these will have more than one answer.