Notices by Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social), page 44

@HerraBRE If you're building a messaging system over TOR already and adding different mechanisms around ability to send... considered using ActivityPub instead of SMTP? :)

I'm very interested in the safe-and-spam-resistant-activitypub-over-tor as a messaging story... might be fun to collaborate :)

@HerraBRE Also not just "content and economics"... how about "consent and economics"?

Capabilities are consent-based systems. Having a random looking address as a capability that can be revoked (not unlike a capability URL https://www.w3.org/TR/capability-urls/ ) may work nicely.

@nightpool .... . . . . o o o o O O O O (I'm hungry)

@HerraBRE that may be true... but currently there's *no* cost to them. How much bitcoin mining is also done on hijacked computing power? My guess: a lot.

What about this approach:
- you have a general inbox address "anyone" can find. Except you have to pay either money or a more expensive hashcash. It's PoW either way right?
- then hand out more specific email addresses to the people you know

The problem? Users' email and address systems are currently not built to handle this...

@HerraBRE Have you thought of just doing the normal version of hashcash?

One problem with hashcash currently is there's no indication that the other side expects it so it may be unnecessary work. But maybe that's not so bad because a normal user does not send out too many emails.

@HerraBRE However I'm not sure this is in practice how people communicate. Having the + at all means that people often just strip out the +<randomfoo>

@HerraBRE ugh I can't find any references to petmail anymore. It was more or less an approach to email-addresses-as-capabilities... also kinda petnames + email... people still use it but not necessarily with that name, and not very formally.

When you see people do the myname+<randomfoo>@domain.org my understanding is that has its history in petmail. I could be wrong.

@HerraBRE I assume you've also looked at petmail?

@impiaaa so you mean the contemporary IHOP menu basically

@HerraBRE I wouldn't do an ICO. Pay-if-not-whitelisted is a legit and should-be-tried approach to anti-abuse mitigation.
Proof of Work *may* be applicable but there's no need for a ledger:

- If doing PoW, you could try challenge-response. "Solve this specific puzzle". No distributed ever-growing database involved.
- Or use a cryptocurrency that already exists. No need for a new one.

ICO may be tempting because this stuff is damn hard to fund but I think it would probably bite you...

An article about my employer Digital Bazaar's DID (Decentralized Identifiers) ledger, Veres One... as well as some other things, such as the decision to *not* do an ICO. https://www.coindesk.com/w3c-vets-forego-ico-government-friendly-blockchain-launch/

jesus christ

there's only so much symbol->string and string->symbol stuff a person can stand