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@oct2pus No, it's similiar to eudev β a semi-fork that takes logind from systemd and makes it work on its own.
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@oct2pus Is ConsoleKit2 dead? Well, darn it.
Then, I guess, the course of action would be to patch GNOME to use elogind instead of systemd-logind.
Shouldn't take much effort to slap it all together, the API is the same.
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> Did it ever occur to you that maybe God gave us fossil fuels and nuclear bombs as a test to see if we'd destroy ourselves?
But no, I guess there aren't any examples of God testing people in the Bible.
And to give us fossil fuel it first gave dinosaurs a meteorite as a test to see if they'd destroy themselves %)?
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@wolf480pl I have, but I didn't know there's hope there :-).
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> gnome has deliberately tied their development into systemd
@oct2pus Actually, GNOME still can be built without systemd entirely.
I saw articles that GNOME fixed their act, so I checked compilation flags of gnome-session β consolekit is still there.
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@thorthenorseman I mix those up sometimesβ¦
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@thorthenorseman I had successful arguments over the Internet, it's not pointless.
Albeit most of them were technicalβ¦
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@are0h In some ways I know American culture better than my own. It's still not nearly enough.
Yes, it is hard. Especially without actually seeing anyone.
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@tdemin Congratulations.
What did you expect to find there anyway?
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@wolf480pl Friends don't let friends write in C++ without Qt :-P.
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@alcinnz Well, that's an edge case.
In X11 it is possible to mark a window a certain way, and then the WM that follows the standard will place the window as a desktop.
How would one approach that in Wayland?
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@v To be fair, it's not basic.
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@brainblasted So something like PCManFM won't be able to draw a desktop without becoming a Wayland compositor.
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@brainblasted Ah, the trick is that the Wayland compositor draws it all on its own, so there's no problem that the protocol cannot do that.
Same can be said about screenshots or colour picking β the compositor has no problem accessing the whole image surface.
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@thorthenorseman Despite that this is a myth, appealing to science being wrong before the development of the scientific method is still pretty wrong.
It's not exactly the science as we know it today.
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@moonman And I've been worried about the partially lost !drwho episodes.
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@brainblasted It's frustrating how limited things are in Wayland right now. A desktop with icons or widgets is practically impossible there on a protocol level as of now for instance.
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@are0h Shoot, I forgot to complete the first part :-).
> So it's just a lack of effort on your part.
I did ask around. Granted it's a wrong continent, but attempts to actually murder weren't named. There could be some survivor bias there though.
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> So it's just a lack of effort on your part.
@are0h I did ask around. Granted it's a wrong continent, but
> And you have plenty of access to people of all cultures I the fediverse.
Indeed. Hi.
> LOL, new flash: they're are the same people. Bigots aren't some fringe part of society. They are people just like everyone else.
Like Howard Zinn said:
> Our people are basically decent and caring
At least to my knowledge, people don't tend to resort to extreme measures even when they are spoonfed ignorant propaganda.
Even in the military it is a major problem to get men to actually try to kill a target. There's a whole psychological science to that.
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> That's just an excuse because books exist.
Like "Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again" :-)? It's not that easy to find a perfect read, especially on a topic this complex.
And I cannot say that I have absolute zero understanding of the US culture either. I did pick up the language *somewhere*, didn't I ;-)?
> Start with Howard Zinn.
I can do that. Thanks.
> It is common knowledge. This information is widely available if you look. For whatever reason, you've refused to up to this point.
Well, it's not like transgenders don't exist in Russia. I got the impression that outside of areas like Chechnya they get the same problems as the rest of us from the society, albeit probably in higher doses.
> When you say 'regular people' who are you referring to?
@are0h Someone to be met in an office, college, places like that. Not on a Windows 10 supremacy rally.
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