> It does not bode well that you are wading into topics you are completely ignorant of. @are0h I won't say that I don't. But apparently I am missing something big, echoes of which float around the fediverse. I don't know how to approach that.
Let's just say, American politics are a strong part of the fediverse and the Internet, and I am the outsider at this party.
> but the idea of not voting for white men is far fetched, unrealistic and too difficult. This is not the thread I thought it was, but it actually does have a connection there.
> because straight people kill trans people for being what they are. This is a very odd question. This is common knowledge. Not exactly common knowledge… How many regular people not on the fringes of society (gopniks, gangsters) are involved in criminal acts like these? Though I heard that relatives and family play a big part…
@are0h I fear the "everyone's on their own mentality". > Just like women trusting men can kill them. Trans folks trusting cis people can kill them. Aren't everyone mentioned above actually in the same sinking boat? I guess it does matter that the white men are going to drown last, but it's not exactly the problem in the long-term.
Like I said in another post in this thread, a more important thing to notice in a politician is how they are going to address the issues and what they think the issues are, not their gender.
> There is real structural inequality within different groups of non-privileged people, which should be reduced @drak Indeed. The trick is how to approach that. One of the worst ones is to divide people by gender, race or hair colour and then pick only the more oppressed ones. Even if a group like that is more oppressed, it is still just a bunch of random individuals. And the powers-that-be can easily mitigate one's efforts by cherry-picking from those groups individuals that can be made invested in the status-quo. It not only can be done, it has been done.
> all groups need to keep in mind that they need to stand together to fight to reduce the gap to those who stand above all. @drak Yeah. So of course that should be the primary focus. Like politicians that actually advocate for affordable healthcare, cheaper higher education, a progressive taxation scale, support for small businesses (against lobbying, software patents, etc.), and don't have mystery money (have what's called integrity). These things don't have a loud label "to help minorities", because they help the _whole_ majority, including all the minorities within.
@djsundog I guess I am trying to say, despite that simple "controversial" slogans like "men are evil, literally never vote for men" work way better on the masses, in the end they just make regular not privileged (i.e. not obesely rich) people fight each other over semantics, and not fight for, you know, social justice, equal opportunities for every single person, no matter what social group that person is from.
And no matter what gender, people are going to stay people, humans. Women are not all infallable goddesses, when you're setting an impossible standard on them – they are going to let you down. And I don't think disappointment is what feminism needs right now.
@djsundog @rbeexpert It was so easy to find counter-examples there. Could be because Russian politics has so many women like that. Also from the top of my head: Irina Yarovaya, Yelena Mizulina (she called Wikipedia a lobby of pedophiles %)), Valentina Matviyenko.
> Please stop voting for white men. Under all circumstances. For any elected position. For the foreseeable future. Period. > Thank you in advance. @djsundog Under all circumstances you say :-)? Okay… Whom should one vote for if one choice is Ksenia Sobchak or Natalia Poklonskaya and the other is Alexei Navalny or Pavel Grudinin? And in the United States that would justify Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, right %)?
@wolf480pl I guess they want to use systemd-networkd, but still be able to kill it later without breaking a user's configuration. An abstraction layer. Or maybe they actually find netplan to be friendlier than everything else, who knows :-).