@clacke The context of the book and the movie also matter.
The book argues strongly for individual responsibility in both politics and culture, very explicitly detailing the importance of citizenship. Military service is one path to citizenship, but also grueling civic service as an overworked scientist, labourer on the Moon, or other very difficult jobs are also detailed and are held in high regard. People are actually strongly dissuaded from joining military service because a lot of them try to join up because it seems like fun, which isn't what citizenship should be earned for. Citizen is not a reward, it is earned. Citizenship is not even a privilege, it is a solemn duty.
The quoted exchange in the book actually leads Rico to a lot of personal questioning, and his answer coming straight from the book wasn't used as a point to exemplify indoctrination but rather personal inexperience with the matter. His military training is arduous, and his actual service sees a lot of suffering. In the book, the mobile infantry is actually comprised of small squads of extremely powerful power armor-wearing mininuke-wielding soldiers absolutely shitstomping over everything and everyone. The loss of a single soldier is devastating which is why they're trained to never leave anyone behind and to always keep group tactics in mind.
Meanwhile the movie comes from a completely different standpoint, since Paul Verhoeven and the writers thought it was a pro-fascist screed, portraying the kids as completely indoctrinated servants to a military fascist state where people are encouraged to go into the military to act as cannon fodder. There, the individual is powerless, the weapons ineffective, and the tactics completely and ironically zerg-like where an individual life is meaningless. It completely misinterprets the book in an attempt to make fun of fascists. Ironically the movie does such a poor job at making fun of fascists that many people still accuse Paul Verhoeven of being a fascist today.
KFist (kfist@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2017 12:30:25 EDT
KFist>people deserve a higher minimum wage and at least a living wage! Nigger no they don't. The flip behind the counter at a coffee place or corner store doesn't deserve $15/hr for consistently fucking up my orders or double-scanning items.
@roka Unless Kethsar surprises me, just an impromptu stream limited to Cirno songs only, broken up by a few interludes every 9 songs to prevent it from getting too horrendously repetitive. There's so much Cirno. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/616979
@roka @maiyannah @mangeurdenuage >On compatible devices, the new Verified Boot changes in Android 8.0 Oreo will prevent a device from booting should it be rolled back to an earlier firmware. The new feature is called Rollback Protection. So if your phone is flashed with older software, you (and your data) are protected from whatever potential security vulnerabilities may have been present in earlier versions.
Hahaha this is the stupidest fucking thing ever if your phone ever gets softlocked by a bug in the current OS, or if there's a bug that kills its battery life, or there's any sort of quality-of-life bug that would be fixed by rolling back even a single update. Especially when a lot of manufacturers and phone companies actually roll out updates themselves and might just land on a final update that ruins particular hardware.