@thj A combatative, conflict-oriented mindset cannot allow opposition to go unchallenged, and this often leads them to impulsively engage these people in unhelpful ways. They allow their (at least perceived) enemy to dictate the terms of engagement and it is not the way you defeat them.
This whole concerted effort to block Gab from Mastodon is interesting, because the people who are doing it like to talk about tolerance.
These are the same people who will defend Palestine. Do they know that Mein Kampf is a popular book in the Middle East?
Suppressing belief systems doesn't work. It has never worked. Pushing them down only make them push back harder. Putting a lid on the pot only makes it boil over quicker. History teaches us this a million times over.
@ninjawedding Coming back to this since man I was not in the mindset to be putting these kinds of words together the past couple of days, but:
What I'm saying, essentially, is that while there is always an ethical imperative to reduce harm, the meaningful way to do so in this instance is one of two things: either educate users on the ways in which they can reduce the threat model, since this threat model is basically "the application being used as intended", or modify the way that private messages work such that the thread model is no longer an issue, which would be achieved by E2EE.
This kind of thing is exactly why the GNU social crowd has been so loud about the blatantly public nature of the Fediverse as it stands now: treating it as anything but that, is going to lead to problems. We can certainly change that if desired, but that's the state of things now.
I feel that going after people obstensibly using the program as intended, even if we find their particular use morally-objectionable, is not going to be a good idea for the long-term health of the Fediverse, because it is going to create a source of constant conflict. It's the same reason I find publicly-passed around blocklists questionable too. We should be seeking to avoid conflict insofar as is possible, not cause it.
As one suggestion, I think it's a *bad idea* to have timelines mixing public and private posts, because without clear separation, you're going to have people posting publicly what they think is private (and vice versa).
@bob I think the way that static site generators do this is going in the right direction, but we should basically have the site just be the flat files the sites are generated from, and the web browser be the generator. To allow sites to control their own branding, you can provide your own styles or something, but the user should always be allowed to change them fully and completely, without specialized tools or knowledge. This will never happen in the current situation, because it would empower users to remove intrusive and obnoxious advertising content, however.
@purplehippo Additionally, every single fingerprint electronic lock I've seen have had master overrides, and that compromises the security significantly, because its never just law enforcement that finds these things.
Ultimately, these things offer a false sense of security, and I suspect people just use them to look like they're securing their guns from unauthorized use without caring about how effective that method is.
Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2019 00:03:23 EDT
AnnahEverytime I see something on gun trigger locks, I'm always a little nonplussed. I would never lock a medical kit, so why do we lock guns? If you are genuinely in a situation of medical emergency, seconds mean the difference between life and death, and just the same, if I am in a situation where I must use the lethal force of a defensive sidearm to defend myself, seconds are just as important. Even the quickest trigger lock is going to set you back more than enough time for you to be fatally injured. I guess with say, sporting rifles, there may be a bit more need for something like that, but in the case of a firearm used less frequently than a defensive carry, a gun safe or locked gun case is a much better bet, especially since gun cases generally have harder to pick cylinders than a trigger lock (and you cant pry those off a gun whereas you can most trigger locks)
This is why you don't give a for-profit commercial organization governance powers. If you think normal government is corruptible, for-profit commercial organization government has corruption built in.