Notices by artsyhonker aka Kathryn (artsyhonker@mastodon.art), page 5

@Qwyrdo Personally I think no intervention is 100% foolproof.

@Qwyrdo There are a bunch of "yeah, but..." comments that are mostly dealing with entirely different contexts.

Another thing that could help in some situations might be to alert the bus driver, who can do things like stop the bus until the aggressor leaves.

@Qwyrdo https://www.themarysue.com/bystanders-harassment-guide/

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@Qwyrdo I saw a cartoon on helping out when people are on the receiving end of racist harassment somewhere, I will try to find it.

Thank you for not turning away.

@Helen I am in Aberdeen. Want to trade?

(I would need you to give my presentation on Monday...)

@Tim_London
In my tradition, this is:

Feed the hungry
Give water to the thirsty
Clothe the naked
Heal the sick
Release the prisoner
Welcome the stranger, the alien, the outcast
Provide for the needs of those who cannot provide for themselves
etc etc

@Mainebot hi

Remember the people who put cat pictures in all the advertising space in a Tube station for a week?

They have a couple of one-year job openings in London:

https://weglimpse.co/jobs/

@redoak @tbeckett
Well, people don't only live, work and study in their own neighbourhoods. And given that many vaccines aren't 100% effective in everyone, most of us don't necessarily know at what point just doing your job or taking the bus or whatever becomes an exposure risk.

@redoak @tbeckett
I also worry about secondary infections from e.g. whooping cough if (or when) we run out of working antibiotics.

It was nice growing up without worrying about getting life-threatening illnesses. I got chicken pox, there wasn't a vaccine for that yet but it's nowhere near as dangerous in children as,say, measles or polio.

@tbeckett @redoak Whereas I... seem to be normal in my response to vaccination, at least insofar as I know I've been exposed to mumps and didn't get it.

@tbeckett @redoak
So, vaccinations aren't 100% effective for most people, but some are more vulnerable than others. I have a friend who found out that she doesn't retain antibodies for more than about 3 years, it's a fairly rare genetic mutation. She found this out by contracting mumps despite having had MMR vaccine. (Now she gets MMR and a. uncheck of other vaccines every three years.)

If everyone were vaccinated, though, her exposure would be way lower.

@tbeckett @redoak (Sorry, I am not really answering your question; just arguing with you about why current vaccination rates are plausibly a problem.

Basically, if people are getting measles or mumps, vaccination rates are too low.

For very fast-mutating things like 'flu it's a whole different game.)

@tbeckett @redoak And, of course, not getting vaccinated tends to run in neighbourhoods. If 10% of your city is unvaccinated, but where you live or work or worship 75% of people are unvaccinated, your exposure is potentially much greater.

@tbeckett @redoak I don't have actual statistics to hand, but in the UK measles and mumps have been making a comeback -- someone at my uni in 2005 got mumps and was very, very sick.

One issue is that most modern vaccines use herd immunity to work, so even if, say, 10% of the population are unvaccinated, the other 90% are at greater risk.