Notices by Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com), page 12

Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 17:44:07 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
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- lnxw48a1
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@lnxw48a1 ^ https://pleroma.soykaf.com/notice/9iZvHtBSSNdw3dEvQm

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 16:41:45 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
In the old days ... that is, in the year or two before and after #StatusNet ended and #GNU_Social began (and the bifurcation of one #OStatus network into two networks that couldn't talk to one another) a number of left-leaning projects joined the #Fediverse, seeing it as a way to help solve whatever issue they were working on.

Projects in Spain, in France, in South America. And of course, Sweden's EKK and their Qvitter project & Quitter instance. Of these, Qvitter/Quitter lasted longest.

What really surprised me is that few right-leaning and even fewer religious-based groups joined back then. Even then, having views that are not far-left was frowned on by the big #corpocentric sites. Believing that some deity exists and that your views and actions should be influenced by that is even more actively opposed by the big sites than rightist views.

But even then, the left wingers weren't harassing those who just wanted a space to hang out or the occasional right winger who stumbled into the network.

I really need to try to sort out my memories of the Fediverse since I joined Identica in 2009 and publish my own history article. So many of the ones I've seen leave out things I found important, or focus on political things that are only tangential to the overall story.

I think many of the mistakes that Evan initially made in 2006-2007 have been repeated by everyone in this space, which is why so many anti-federation proposals are strongly argued for by people who have not been here for a decade.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 16:41:45 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
In the old days ... that is, in the year or two before and after #StatusNet ended and #GNU_Social began (and the bifurcation of one #OStatus network into two networks that couldn't talk to one another) a number of left-leaning projects joined the #Fediverse, seeing it as a way to help solve whatever issue they were working on.

Projects in Spain, in France, in South America. And of course, Sweden's EKK and their Qvitter project & Quitter instance. Of these, Qvitter/Quitter lasted longest.

What really surprised me is that few right-leaning and even fewer religious-based groups joined back then. Even then, having views that are not far-left was frowned on by the big #corpocentric sites. Believing that some deity exists and that your views and actions should be influenced by that is even more actively opposed by the big sites than rightist views.

But even then, the left wingers weren't harassing those who just wanted a space to hang out or the occasional right winger who stumbled into the network.

I really need to try to sort out my memories of the Fediverse since I joined Identica in 2009 and publish my own history article. So many of the ones I've seen leave out things I found important, or focus on political things that are only tangential to the overall story.

I think many of the mistakes that Evan initially made in 2006-2007 have been repeated by everyone in this space, which is why so many anti-federation proposals are strongly argued for by people who have not been here for a decade.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 16:08:14 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@sim @coldacid @lnxw48a1 @dielan @moonman

Yeah, you're probably right. StatusNet pre-bifurcation (when Pump.io split away and the remainder became GNU Social) was different than what came after. Qvitter (and the Quitter instances) really came to prominence during that split, and there were other politically left organizations (such as Los Indios, which did some WordPress plug-ins to connect to OStatus) that came along for a while.

I remember the night when a bunch of people joined QSE from some politically right site, resulting in a bunch of bans and suddenly a lot of new instances opening up.

So GS at that time had several strands of culture from various places, various histories, various points of view. My recollection is that instances mostly got along or ignored one another.

That said, there isn't really a current GS culture.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:59:12 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@ffs @pox @jeff @dude @moonman @thatbrickster

I attended California public schools. ;-)

Bundesnachrichtendienst ( BND ): https://www.bnd.bund.de/EN/Home/home_node.html

(For anyone else who didn't know what that meant.)

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:34:24 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@sim

Agree about the projects. The culture came with Mastodon (.social) advertising "no Nazis" on Twitter and HN, pushing their opponents (most of whom are not Nazis either) onto other sites & platforms.

When I was setting up nu.federati.net after a host screwed me over and destroyed my prior instances, Gargron suggested that I set up a Mastodon instance, but what seems like 15 columns and never knowing what posts will display make Masto painful for me to use (despite me having two mastodon accounts).

I will eventually set up a Pleroma instance, but not as a replacement for GS.

@coldacid @lnxw48a1 @dielan @moonman

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Infected Moomin (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:21:27 EDT Infected Moomin
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@lnxw37a2 @coldacid @dielan @lnxw48a1 @sim

1. replace qvitter with something that doesn't destroy performance, and supports GS' extensive featureset
2. all the cache plugins break the system and thus aren't usable
3. find out why web requests are an order of magnitude slower than other services
4. fix database thrashing

probably other stuff I'm forgetting.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:16:16 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@moonman @coldacid @lnxw48a1 @dielan @sim

I realize that. But Pleroma isn't the answer for everyone. If the GS devs can get a handle on the issues you faced, others won't have to face those same issues.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:13:53 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@ffs @moonman @coldacid @dielan @dude @sim @thatbrickster

I don't think politicizing the #Fediverse is what Feld is getting at. He's saying that people are starting to pay attention, but the AP implementations still lack features they use on #corpocentric sites.

Note that everything proposed was in #StatusNet a decade ago. Some was stripped out a few years back, but I can still do calendar events and communicate with PuSH-enabled blogs from #GNU_Social today.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 14:07:30 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@moonman @coldacid @dielan @sim

"The changes they're proposing won't mitigate the types of problems we had"

You should submit a list of those problems (with some details to enable trouble-shooting). There is definitely some deep surgery needed on GS, but there are people who appear willing to do such work now.

CC: @lnxw48a1

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 01:08:10 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Infected Moomin
@moonman Seeing that he's around sixty makes me feel old. Top Gun was 33 years ago.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-May-2019 00:11:01 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- نبي الحيوان
@mono I normally do, but that's missing on Pale Moon.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 23:45:53 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Infected Moomin
@moonman @coolboymew If this particular script does a webfinger lookup, then it should find the new URLs. If not, I may attempt to write one to perform that task. (I guess I could also fiddle with the database, but I'd rather write a re-usable script.)

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 23:40:48 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@coolboymew @moonman Me!

( @lnxw48a1 )

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 23:34:10 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@coolboymew As far as I can tell, it shouldn't affect follows, except for #GNUSocial subscribers (endpoint re-mappings are missing).

Currently running some of the federation fix-up scripts to see whether they can help pick up the current profile info (e.g., various URLs) for #SPC users.

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Lohan G (lohang@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 22:32:24 EDT Lohan G

Some great news about good old #GNUSocial : GS's active development resumed last summer :)
Details :
https://gnusocial.no/conversation/4465380#notice-5034207
#fediverse

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Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 18:33:41 EDT Annah
- noct
@silvally Lyft and Uber are predatory, exploitative businesses that can only exist in their current state if drivers work for peanuts with no benefits. The don't deserve to survive.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 21:07:28 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
Ah, I figured it out. New #SPC doesn't have the same endpoints, so #GS doesn't know how to reacquire the subscriptions.

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 20:28:18 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
- Infected Moomin
@moonman Dang! Is there a .klan TLD now?

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Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)] (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2019 20:13:35 EDT Nobody [Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2)]
@moonman @kaniini MSFT announced a new version of WSL with a full GPLv2 kernel. See https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/05/windows-10-will-soon-ship-with-a-full-open-source-gpled-linux-kernel/
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