Afterwards, I did a test connection to the #Federati #Murmur / Mumble server. It disconnected once over a ten minute test.
So if I do another #Office_Hours voicechat soon, understand that my connection may be interrupted.
Anyway, I got some great ideas. A has been trying to document #ActivityPub itself (S2S and C2S designs), various implementations (including the Mastodon API that is often used instead of AP_C2S), as well as other #federated communication protocols such as #Matrix and #XMPP. They suggested that "a better Matrix" might be able to be built atop AP.
I used to watch their game streams years ago, but the voice sounded different over Mumble. I'm told that getting a better microphone made the difference.
#Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article.
"Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight"
> Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal.
No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter.
And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it.
> I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely!
Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use.
> But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story.
Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance.
One thing about this surge of people migrating from #Twitter to the #Fediverse is that people who gave up on #federated #socnets years ago and solely used #corpocentric platforms are now coming back.
Thus, I get announcements about people I knew from #Tent (thanks to fellow former Tentler @bthall) along with news about people from #Identi.ca and other #StatusNet and #Pump.io instances returning.
@simsa04 It's good to see that #Loomio is still around. #Diaspora used to use Loomio many years ago. (They also used either #GetSatisfaction or #UserVoice ... which are more like user-to-user support communities, and I think they used #Convore until it closed also.)
I wish I'd had the time and focus to document everything I've seen in the #federated #socnet space. I could probably write a book by now.
@simsa04 @geniusmusing If they did, their instance(s) would rapidly become the largest. They would be the “center of gravity” that endangers the health of every #federated network in which they appear.
However, I think that, freed from the distraction of #Musk and the public attention of #Twitter, they would rather focus on proving that a network built upon their #AT_Protocol is viable.
I've never played #Minecraft - Is this #Federated software? Is it #FreeSoftware? If so, how can Microsoft control what's happening on someone's private server? Even if such code existed in a #FreeSoftware application, I would have thought there'd be a fork that eliminates that external control. It's time for that now.
But if #Minecraft isn't #FreeSoftware aka Free/Libre Open Source Software, then I really have no sympathies for people running or using it...
Unfortunately, some parts of the #Fediverse (primarily, but not exclusively #Mastodon) have marketed themselves with promises of privacy, control, immunity from recourse, and personal security that none of these networks (nor the protocols they use) were ever designed to provide. The article looked at that as failure, instead of recognizing it for what it was: marketing & advertising puffery.
@ssokolow it's a long and frustrating process and its not inevitable, but it's happening because thousands of people are putting in the work to make it happen. * There's never been more interest in #federated and #P2P replacements for the #datafarms than there has been over the last year, nor more libre community-hosting services springing up. * there is a #libPurple plugin for #Matrix: https://github.com/matrix-org/purple-matrix#readme * Breaking the chip monopoly breaks the remains of the x86/Windows monopoly
@sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beginning, that this is NOT really a clone of Twitter or Facebook, but something far different.
Are you an #opensource enthusiast, possibly highly interested in #federated and #distributed systems? Would you like to work in a global environment pushing the openly governed #Matrix protocol and related open source software forward?
I've been with these people for almost a year now and I've not looked back one single day. Highly recommend checking out the positions if you're looking for a change.
Welcome to INDIEWEB.SOCIAL - a home for those who build, study, promote - or are just fascinated by - #openweb, #indieweb, #federated & #humanetech practices & tech.
Special thanks to @jeannie who is a co-admin here, & who graciously donated the domain name to this effort. Key links:
I'm proposing a new version of a metadata document specification for servers in the #federated#web. This aims to collect the good and avoid the bad of the previous iterations, and to be flexible enough for a large part of the federated web to implement it.
Comments very much welcome, especially from #developers working on the federated web.
@liaizon @rw The 3rd or 4th invasion of #Gabsters. . I still think that if they feel persecuted, they should be looking at building a #peer-to-peer instead of a #federated network. The "censorship resistance" they seek just isn't here. . (And anyone in the Fediverse that thinks about their "wolf in sheep's clothing" plan should be rightly concerned that this will set a precedent for Apple & Google to require blocks based on their vague and changing standards in the future)