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@Trysdyn oh... okay
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@karolat @mewmew yeah pleroma.site was never meant to be seen in that way. it was just something i threw up originally as a replacement for gnusocial.de (and most of the OG users came from there), and so i went with the pleroma.$tld thing without thinking about it.
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@fluffy the way the DNS system works I believe truly represents everything that is wrong with capitalism as the boomers envisioned it
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@sir what kind of help do you need with it
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@shadow8t4 that was already done with capitalist.party tbh
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tfw there is a .money domain
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@shpuld that's the perception. it's a lot more complicated than this though. in reality, a lot of this has been building for a while, ever since the libreplanet incident. but to somebody who is not inside FSF politics, i agree that it does look the way you describe, and to an extent it is true that RMS became the embodiment of the public's frustration with the MIT Media Lab because of his prior ties to CSAIL.
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@nerthos
oh, that's not my position at all, but i think it's important to look at the whole person. the people who are going for his juggular are frustrated, but the lack of respect for his legacy is disappointing. on the other hand though, you have to also be able to say "wow, he's done a lot of fucked up things." anything else is just a sentimental view.
and, bluntly, *my* reasoning for why RMS should retire (which i have hed this position for many years now) mostly has to do with reinvigorating the movement with new blood.
someone who really gets things like discord and SaaS and can speak the language of our youth.
in short, i want RMS to retire, and i want the FSF to install a board of zoomers. but i don't want RMS to be written off, either.
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@dansup well that is the thing. i would like to offer other software like pixelfed with a single sign-on. there are lots of things i want to do, but none of it makes sense on the pleroma.site domain.
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the other reason why we would like to use a domain other than pleroma.site is so that, you know, we could possibly use software other than pleroma in the future without it being weird.
it's nice to have options.
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@rabcyr there are only ~700 accounts here. i've never marketed it or anything. i just feel like we can build a more 'fun' community on a less ... corporate sounding domain
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@rabcyr i promise the new domain (once we figure out what we want it to be anyway) will be better.
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we plan to sunset the pleroma.site instance, as, from what i can see, the original purpose of the instance has been accomplished.
when pleroma.site was started, there were only a handful of instances in existence running Pleroma.
now, there are several hundred which operate in a similar way to pleroma.site, as well as hundreds more with different moderation philosophies.
and so this opens the question: what is the point in continuing to run this instance? i feel like the community here would benefit from having a domain that allows us to be more independent.
the pleroma.site instance will continue to offer service until April 2021, but registrations have been permanently closed.
it is my hope that, as a community, we can find a domain that is more reflective of what we have been building together. i love the small, tight-knit community we have built here, and that's what i want to reflect in our communal identity, instead of something so pastiche and bland.
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@mono @kaikatsu @moonman
yes, but it doesn't change the other problems with the domain choice, namely that it's boring (:
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@mono @kaikatsu @moonman
the lifespan of this instance has been considerably longer than 9 months.
it's not that i am bored of running an instance, i just want to sunset this particular domain.
i believe my plan will be to close registrations and figure out what to do from there.
that will allow people to move to the new instance at their leisure (or their own).
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@mono @moonman actually that isn't the worst idea, he's honestly a good guy. but really? I'd probably just let @kaikatsu run with it if they want to.
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the other other thing is. the pleroma.site database is really fucked up due to some things that happened early in it's life back when Pleroma dev was very seat of the pants. there's a lot of corruption going back past a year.
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for example, one of the newer diaspora instances is called treehouse.pub. and like, that's quite an aesthetic domain choice.
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@kaikatsu @coolboymew @dielan @karolat
well I mean my goal is to keep the professional style in how the instance conducts itself, just you know, without the rope tying whatever we decide on doing into a potential shitshow for the project.
and I mean as you know, the neutrality isn't so easy. I think the focus we are shifting toward is overall healthier for the local community though. but it is not a workflow or policy position that I would feel comfortable having anyone view as an official endorsement by the project. what's good for us isn't necessarily good for everyone.
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@dielan @coolboymew @karolat that is the thing. philosophically, we don't want for there to be a Pleroma "flagship" instance. and so there has always kind of been this fine line. to me, I feel like I have my hands tied because of it, because if we do something somebody doesn't like, or don't do something demanded of us, then they turn it into something it isn't. I also believe that this community has stifled growth because half the people who sign up go on to start their own instances after a week or two. and while that is interesting to the project, it's not really what I wanted to build personally. so I think it makes sense to hand over management of this instance to the project and let them run it as a demo or flagship or whatever. people keep wanting to make it a flagship so let the foundation run and deal with it imo :)
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