Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 117

@xj9 The design of your tools will be different depending on whether your goal is liberating people (to pick some random examples) to spend all day on the net shiptoasting, OR to organize F2F gatherings for direct-democratic organizing, OR to report on the activities of all their neighbours to the "proper" authorities. We can't control what people do with #FreeCode software, and that's good. But form follows *function*, and all software leans towards some kinds of uses.
@kaniini @feld @href

@clacke Jitsi Meet can replace the conference call usage people make of Skype, but it doesn't replace the inter-personal chat function of Skype, FB Messenger, What'sApp, Telegram etc. Making voice calls with JM doesn't work on my 32-bit laptop. The Wire desktop client does (at least for one-to-one voice calls). Not sure how well JM supports mobile devices either.
@xj9

@clacke Jitsi Meet is self-hostable, yes. Not sure about the second part. The #SIP connections you're describing sound like server>client, not server>server, which is the kind of federation we're talking about. What do you mean by "federated account" here?
@xj9

@Adoxographer in this scenario, corporations represent the unconscious consensus to keep paddling towards the waterfall. If you like, you could include the PR industry, a person with a bullhorn at the front of boat chanting "paddle, paddle ...". Everyone (or a suitably strong majority) choosing to back-paddle would represent people taking whatever actions are necessary to move away from corporate dominance (although this is only part of solving each problem).
@rbe_expert @wolftune @Adoxographer

#SoftwareFreedom is important, but just as we can't expect everyone to code their own software from scratch, we can't expect them to transition to freedom-respecting software that they find impossibly confusing to use. #UX matters, and we need to help #FreeCode developers learn to create better UX, and be welcoming when people with UX experience get involved in free code projects.
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/who-cares-if-code-is-free-ux-and-free-software/

Who the hell were the McGillicuddy Serious Party?
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=A4ofi_0PYUk&t=1s

@href
> potentially give more freedom

... to do what? We can be free from the data silos by not using the internet. What is it we hope to achieve by gaining and sharing the ability to use the net in freedom?

@xj9 @feld @kaniini

Anyone keen to own an official pirate version of the #McGSP manifesto, downloaded onto strips of dead tree, in exchange for other strips of dead tree, or digital copies of same, can go here:
https://www.thebestlittlebookstore.co.nz/product-info.php?McGillicuddy+Serious+Party+Manifesto+1987-1999+Folio+Edition-pid399.html

Laird of Hamilton, and former leader of the #McGillicuddySeriousParty, Graeme Cairns interviewed on #RadioNZ earlier this month:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018674742/graeme-cairns-laird-of-hamilton

'You're a Good Cunt, Jesus' - Kill Martha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmmJfm9miHY

Have any of your passwords been compromised in a known data breach? Here's a site that lets you know (thanks #DreamWidth crew for the tip):
https://haveibeenpwned.com/

@policeinchains we seem to have drifted off of a number of tangents. I'm happy to discuss the Political Compass, the history of social democratic parties, or decolonization theory, but it might be easier if we address them one at a time ;) If you'd like to continue the discussion, maybe pick the one that interests you the most?

@codesections have you used #Skype since it was acquired by #Microsoft, and they replaced the #P2P routing with a centralized network?
@xj9

@kaniini What about a 'block Nazis' button that just turns off federation? It would be perfectly accurate (assuming they kick anyone they think is a "Nazi" off their instance), and it be awesome if all the bullies motivated by #CulturalLeninism would firewall themselves off from the fediverse ;-P
@feld @href @kaniini

@xj9
> communication/information infra that we control

To what end?

@kaniini @feld @href

@ng0 The fights are not about software, they're about politics. Some of us want the #fediverse to be a #CommonCarrier network that allows anyone to communicate without anyone, without permission. Some of us want it to be a #NoHomers club (see the Simpsons episode with the Stonecutters), where only the suitably enlightened are allowed to communicate (as decided by ???).
@kaniini @feld @href

@bob
> Device key proliferation, which gives me no confidence that the e2ee can be relied upon

Isn't this because it's still a beta feature? Isn't that why encryption is switched off by default? It hasn't escaped my notice the Matrix team get grief for that decision too. Damned if they do, damned if they don't ...

@disroot @stevenroose @z428 @Ashpex @xmpp

@bob I can see the value in storing archives, just as mailing lists and web forums do, especially for public groups. Mirroring that archive on multiple servers with participating users is a good way to add resilience. It just seems obvious to me that it would be a per-group setting, with options including; no storage, storage for X period of time, permanent storage. With further options to store some threads and not others.

#Disroot.org have decided to shift the focus of their group chat platform from the #Riot web client and #Matrix server/ protocol, to an #XMPP web client and server.
https://disroot.org/en/blog/matrix-closure

Let's imagine that it's 2030, and we've succeeded beyond our wildest dreams. The vast majority of net users are doing their communication and publishing on user-controlled platforms, running #FreeCode software, federated with #OpenProtocols where it makes sense. The now-dominant corporate #DataFarms have gone the way of #MySpace, #Friendster, and #Bebo. Now what do we do? What's it all for?
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