There are different approaches to private social messaging, even within the fediverse. Diaspora was one of the earlier examples, allowing users to give access permission to only one person (like a #DM), some people (like group DMs), a group of people defined by the posting user ("aspects"), or everyone (public). #Friendica does private messages with #DFRN and Dispora, and maybe now AP? Hubzilla and now Zap have been doing federation of private content with Zot, later AP. Consensus is emerging.
(re) #Introduction career activist and professional volunteer from Aotearoa (NZ), living in China. Co-founder of numerous community projects, including a community newspaper, #CoWorking space, #MicroRadio station, #SocialCentre, the Aotearoa sections of #Indymedia and #CreativeCommons, and the Aotearoa Permaculture Network. Up until recently. I've been publishing long-form blogs at #Disintermedia. I'd love to hear from you about common interests, my contact info is here: http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Danyl_Strype
Under marked otherwise, all posts from this account are #CC#BYSA 4.0. Unless I send a DM, I want all my posts publicly visible, to any web browser, and any other user app or archival/ research system that speaks #ActivityPub (and ideally #Diaspora and #Zot too). I'm happy for them to be indexed by any search system and included in any relevant search. That's why I publish them on the web with Mastodon. When I want to have private discussion, I use DMs. One day the AP-verse will do this better.
@puffinus_puffinus > all of these people are potentially under threat by the creation of a database such as this.
Even if this was literally true (and I think it's an exaggeration at best), the #5Eyes and all other state and corporate spy agencies are most likely building such databases. The only way to prevent that is a) don't have these discussions in public b) build tools for private social networking that use #E2EE etc so such databases are literally impossible to aggregate.
@puffinus_puffinus@tastytea People must know that, when they post something publicly in Internet, they are not like walking along the street, but like deliberately stapling a message to a noticeboard or sending a message to a newspaper. Web tracking is like following you along the street; scraping intentionally published messages is like going to every noticeboard in the street and taking note of the publications. Don't publish anything you don't want to be public...
@eldaking > Usually it is necessary to get a signed form with free and informed consent
Once something is published it is, by definition, no longer private. You don't need the informed consent of an author to use their books in a study. The same is true of public-facing web publications, including blogs and microblogs.
@frickhaditcoming > could you stop them legally by adding something where the instance license every toot under something that this would be a violation?
You mean like ARR copyright? Probably not without making it Illegal to read the posts using anything other than the web UI of the instance it's hosted on. So other instances and third-party apps would be violating that license every time they show users the posts. IANAL though.
@vfrmedia > sex workers indexed where they may be operating in a legal grey area..
If this is the case, then making public posts on the internet that reveal this is self-sabotaging. It's about as sensible as drug dealers offering Illegal substances for sale in public posts. People need to be educated about #SecurityCulture, so they don't compromise themselves like this. "Don't read" policies are a head-in-the-sand solution, because cops will not respect them.
> the "not for everybody" looks like nothing so much as an attempt at the soft-sell
For those of us who care about #SoftwareFreedom as a #HumanRights issue, not an optional extra, it comes across as a bit like "being free to express yourself is not for everybody". As #EdwardSnowden points out, not caring about a fundamental right because you're not personally using it rights now, is short-sighted and anti-social.
"The #Tidelift Subscription is a managed open source subscription providing all the capabilities you expect—and require—from commercial software. But now, for all of the key open source software you depend on." https://tidelift.com/
This is the way to save the software #commons from the corporate cloud clowns, not proprietary #SourceAvailable licenses that fragment the commons into incompatible islands.
@kavbojka > I wish there was a decentralized effort I could help crowdfund.
There are *heaps* of decentralized efforts you could help crowdfund! Jami, for example, is entirely P2P (no servers). I suspect it would be help tremendously to have a paid designer or two to work on the #UX and coordinate formal testing. That way, the engineers could focus their time and energy on improving the performance of the back-end, and adding features.