Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 125

@freakazoid I'm not sure what you mean by "scaling mechanism". The main use case for text chat in Ring would be to coordinate times for voice/video chat. Even if the number of users got large, I doubt the volume of messaging would be anywhere near what BitMessage aims to support.

@freakazoid I'm a bit sceptical of #SSB given its strong dependencies on the Nodejs and NPM ecosystem. BitMessage reference implementation is in Python which seems much more "mature" than using web technologies with huge security flaws for a non-web network.

@freakazoid I'm a bit sceptical of #SSB given its strong dependencies on the Nodejs and NPM ecosystem. BitMessage reference implementation is in Python which seems much more "mature" than using web technologies with huge security flaws for a non-web network.

@wiktor
> they won't assemble by themselves

Sure. But in theory it doesn't have to be hard work. Average users can use Pinafore.social to plug in to a Mastodon site, or install browser plugins. So it strikes me the must be design patterns for making such Lego brick assembly of software components easier
@stevenroose @jcbrand

If they don't define a standard set of protocols for federation with any existing email service that choose to implement them, they're not really a replacement. XMPP and even DMs on the fediverse could be used as email replacements, but as @wiktor points out, only if the person you want to email uses them.
@LWFlouisa @stevenroose

@LWFlouisa tax is a separate issue. The risk is that people can use the crypto goldrush to sell pyramid schemes like #BitConnect. There's a place for regulation that can sit down scammers, and clear the waters for genuine ICOs like #FileCoin

@rapnie great question! I've been looking for stuff like this for Dreamwidth. Is there anything at activitypub.rocks, or the #W3C Social WG that meets your needs?

@LWFlouisa sure, that's why I propose the gratis trial period. Also, you could have both F-Droid and FreeShop on your device. So if you really need something and can't afford what the developer is asking in FreeShop, you can get it from F-Droid.

@alcinnz that's a cool idea. The problem I'm trying to solve is what I observe of my own behaviour. There's nonfree apps I want that cost money to install. I tell myself I'd be willing to pay if it was free code. But I never give donations to the apps I get from F-Droid. I'm intrigued by the idea of a voluntary paywall, that I can choose to put up myself because I want to support free code development.

@LWFlouisa how would federation be useful in F-Droid?

Alternatively, what if users paid a yearly subscription to have the app store installed? Then the money collected was shared out to app devs on the basis of how often their apps were installed, and maybe for how long. It could even send a portion of the royalties for each app to the maintainers of any upstream dependencies.

#ShowerThoughts It would be cool if there was a fork of #FDroid where users could pay for an app, maybe using GNU Taler? Maybe we could install them gratis for a trial period, then when it ends, we're given the choice to either pay or uninstall.

#JoiIto, CreativeCommons luminary and co-founder of #eCash, pours cold bathwater on #CryptoTokens and the #ICO goldrush, but tries not to throw the baby out in the process:
https://www.wired.com/story/ico-cryptocurrency-irresponsibility/

> "Given the substantial price rise and unpleasant "scaling factor" for new contacts, combined with the fact that we found #Mautic a very useful piece of software, we were in an uncomfortable position. Thankfully the Mautic platform itself is open source software. So unlike all #proprietary #SaaS offerings we had the option of hosting the service ourselves."
- Dave Lane, OERU technologist
https://tech.oeru.org/2018-update-oeru-technology-stack

@lynnesbian Yahoo! eats it own young like a stressed rodent ...

I wonder if #Bitmessage protocol could be used to implement offline text messages in #GNU #Ring?
https://github.com/Bitmessage

The #FSF is charging US$60-$120 a year for an "associate membership". That's a pretty decent chunk of change, but it comes with a free email address (forwarded to the email address of your choice), access to an #XMPP service (server? account? both?), free entry to #LibrePlanet, and more. It's one way folks can make sure the FSF is funded by its supporters, not "friendly" corporations.
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/membership/double-your-support-of-the-fsf-give-the-gift-of-membership-get-a-10k-match

@jcbrand thisis great! More of this please! Again, these are exactly the kinds of partnerships that the #OAE group exists to facilitate, and would like to hear about.
@stevenroose @wiktor