Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 132

I can see the benefits of 'design once, deploy everywhere', but I still agree with Drew that there are better ways to implement it than the way #Electron does it. For example, I like the way #Mailpile uses the default browser on the system, rather than bundling its own.
@jcbrand @shura @z428

@jcbrand oh true, you're right that #Ionic is mobile-only. My mistake. What a shame :(
@shura @z428

@z428
> I thought #Electron was a #github spin-off?

Yes, that's correct. My bad :-} Original point still somewhat applicable though.

@jcbrand @shura

@z428 I started putting together a list of companies developing and deploying #FreeCode software, although it needs some updates:
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/for-profit-freedom-forges
@jcbrand

@enkiv2 ah! Intriguing ...
@clacke @scolobb

@clacke this thread is getting into heavy programming theory which is well above my paygrade, but may be of interest to my old friend and comrade @natecull
@enkiv2

@xurizaemon I interpreted it as:

Premise #1: Truly secure systems don’t require trust.
Premise #2: The way Signal is operated and the app distributed requires users to trust #OpenWhisperSystems and Moxie.
Conclusion #1: Signal is not a truly secure system
Conclusion #2: I discourage anyone needing secure communications from using it

@LWFlouisa you'd call it "Facebook"

@lj_writes I agree with Mike here, AP provides for many functions that aren't yet implemented across all the #fediverse apps, because they couldn't be federated under #OStatus (the older standard #Mastodon adopted from #StatusNet / #GNUsocial) or choices were made not to use them (eg groups in Mastodon). @mike can you recommend the DW crew a more general resource on implementing AP than the Mastodon one they are looking at?

Bryan Crump is interviewing soil scientist Louis Schipper from Waikato University on the importance of the #rhizosphere, the win-win relationships between roots and soil biota, and the role all this plays in pulling carbon out of the atmosphere and storing it in soil:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/nights

The only reason Thompson and Clark's business exists is for brand protection, and maybe profit protection. If companies have genuine concerns about protecting staff, that's what the Police are there for. Megan Wood's refusal to condemn these uses of T&C means publicly-owned companies will use them again under this government, and may be doing it right now.

The Clark Labour government defended the practice at the time, claiming Solid Energy's use of T&C was about protecting the safety of West Coast coal miners from a bunch of idealistic hippies, firmly committed to nonviolent direct action #YeahRight. So now Megan Wood has to defend the practice in general, because otherwise the Opposition will quite rightly call Labour hypocrites, while claiming it was wrong in this case because it "morphed into brand protection", not staff protection.

This is not the first time Thompson and Clark have been used by state-owned enterprises to spy on activists whose activities might threaten their bottom line. During the last Labour government, Solid Energy (then state-owned) contacted T&C to spy on the anti-coal mine coalition Save Happy Valley (which I was part of), and a number of other groups that shared members, as revealed by Investigative journalist #NickyHagar in the Sunday Star Times.

#NZLabour government Ministers have learned from their predecessors, and avoid directly answering questions from journalists by regurgitating key messages crafted by a PR team. The PM is a master of 'repeat it until they go away' and Megan Wood was sticking to her key messages about Southern Response's use of corporate spies Thompson and Clark.

@funbreaker I know, right?

@LWFlouisa the core software is an entirely different matter. In this metaphor it's equivalent to the press the newspaper is printed on, or the building the bar is in. So yes, the people who write free code software have no power to decide how it's used or by who (by definition), including the rules of any given instance. Just like people who manufacture printing presses don't control the editorial policy of newspapers, and builders don't makes the rules for bars.

@LWFlouisa
> So what if an instance chooses to partner with a centralized service?

Can you expand on that?

@riking can you expand on that?

@fashywhitefem in which post?
@CharredStencil

@funbreaker me too! I remember #Live365. The #GrooveShark of the late 90s. I tested it about the time I was downloading songs overnight on #Napster ;-)
@kaniini