Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 155

I agree with this, but I'm anticipating objections based on a definition of "capitalism" that is almost the total opposite of what the author and I mean by it. I can't but think this is part of the very problem of vocabulary the author describes:
http://theconversation.com/capitalism-is-killing-the-worlds-wildlife-populations-not-humanity-106125

@LWFlouisa It's a huge subject, and #IANAL, and AFAIK neither is Aaron. Really we're all groping around in the dark trying to work out the best way forward in the short term ;) Maybe best thing to do is to read the entire conversation, and the links we shared, then ask us any specific questions you're left with.

@LWFlouisa yeah, um, this thread isn't about that stuff, and poor @Smithums is probably even more confused now than I am ;)

@LWFlouisa @Smithums through all of what? You mean the Parecon website?

@cryptpad was the other example of E2EE over the web I was trying to think of, thanks @bob

@ldubost @HerraBRE @Blort @alexl

@andrioid I can't take credit for coining that one, I got it from my sister and brother-in-law, but I'll take credit for introducing it to the #fediverse ;) I try to use procrasti-work as an adaptive strategy, making myself do one set of jobs that do need to be done, by telling myself it means I can put off doing something I feel less motivated to do at that time.

@HerraBRE @alexl @Blort thanks, I'll have a read.

@funkwhale Archive.org might also be approachable about providing hosting for an instance of #FunkWhale serving the #FMA collection - and potentially other libre music collections they hold - to the #fediverse. Again, the folks working on archiving the FMA seem like the best people to talk to.
@switchingsocial @musicman

@funkwhale they've specifically asked that people not to scrape the site. So the people to talk to about both the size of the FMA collections, and how to get a copy, would be the folks at Archive.org who are doing an official mirror. See:
http://freemusicarchive.org/member/cheyenne_h/blog/Big_Changes_Ahead_for_FMA
@switchingsocial @musicman

New #Disintermedia blog post: 'Tohatoha means “Sharing”: A New Name for CreativeCommons Advocacy in Aotearoa'.
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/blog/2018/12/03/tohatoha-means-sharing-a-new-name-for-creativecommons-aotearoa/

Congratulations to the #Tohatoha crew, and a big thanks to everyone who has been part of its predecessor #CCANZ over the last decade or so. We have a lot to celebrate, but also a lot of work still to be done.

@andrioid I agree. I'd have to admit I'm a chronic yak shaver, and it's only one of many forms of #ProcrastiWork I indulge in (arsing about on the #fediverse all day is another one ;) I'd say what whether or not that yak is worth shaving depends on how many people will benefit in future (including your future selves) from not that yak pre-shaved. If it's only useful to your current project, and there's a quicker solution, don't shave the yak. Otherwise, maybe it's worth it?

@wolftune just to be clear, I'm *not* saying it was pointless to discuss the pros and cons of NC licenses on the #fediverse at all. The exchange of opinions and links may have been helpful to any passers-by not already familiar with the subject. But I doubt you or I learned anything new from it. Whereas I believe that in another medium, the same debate could have been both less frustrating and more productive, allowing us to explore new aspects, or record the chains of argument more permanently.

@clacke FYI I'm not sure if it's a language barrier, but I've found debating anything with @Shamar to be confusing and ultimately pointless. He has a chip on his shoulder about something that happened in an open source project he contributed to, and is now on some inscrutable crusade, of which his vanity license is just the latest part ;-)

@Shamar I have asked a couple of times for you to untag from this conversation about your custom license. In case it's not clear, "untag me" means stop putting my @strypey address in posts about it. I'm now going to mute the discussion. FWIW like @clacke I agree with what the Debian folks said on that email list.

@LWFlouisa sure, I'm not trying to get paid for blogging at present, since it doesn't cost me anything. If I was running a news site that was running their own hosting infrastructure, employ a number of fulltime staff, and trying to fund investigative journalism, that would be a different story. That's Scoop's situation.

@HerraBRE @alexl @Blort I'm sorry if it sounded like was accusing you of making anything up. It just seemed to me like some of your posts were falling into the old 'imperfect security = no security' fallacy. I still think it's fair to say E2EE via JS can protect users from some threats, but not others, even assuming the host is trustworthy, competent, and not compromised. Don't you?

@wolftune now I'm tempted to put up a #FunkWhale instance full of music under non-NC CC licenses, and monetize it in every gross, spyware-riddled way I can think of (gOgle ads etc), just to spite you ;-P Of course my conscience would force me to donate all the resulting revenue to CC or the FSF or somesuch.

@wolftune for me it's like debating on an email list, but worse because of the character limit. I'm not sure what would work better. Maybe a #Discourse forum or a #Loomio group? I'd appreciate suggestions because if McLuhan was right that "the medium is the message", reliance on micro-blogging might be one of the causes of the net failing to live up to our global democracy ideals. Thanks for the lively debate :-)

@wolftune sorry man, I think I'm just struggling to keep track of what we're both arguing (and not arguing), because neither of us can put forward a complete line of argument without getting interrupted by rebuttal from the other, and we can't easily scroll back to make sure our replies are fully in context. The fediverse just isn't a good medium for rigorous discussions about complicated subjects like this.