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Notices by πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social), page 101

  1. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 21:32:07 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • knives only

    @KnivesOnly Several of the article comments are pointing out that the ion channel issue has been rediscovered many times over the decades, but it keeps being forgotten again because they can't seem to find the *cause*.

    I'm not sure what to make of ME...

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 21:32:07 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  2. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:24:18 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @bamfic @SuperFloppies Modern CPU pretty much *is* RF design. The only type of analog circuit where things get this ridiculous is when designing RF amps, mixers and filters for microwave (>1GHz) RF circuits, such as those found in WiFi radios and satellite dish LNAs. At these frequencies, lines behave more like whips than rods...

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:24:18 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  3. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:17:35 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    in reply to
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies With the clock in the center of the die, the delay would actually be a more comfortable 1/12 of a clock cycle. Still not anywhere near the spacious edge timing tolerances one would ideally want, but well, it seems to be sufficient.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:17:35 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  4. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:14:10 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    in reply to
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies If there is excess line, one simply makes folds or zig zags. Doing this on a chip die is possible too, of course, but that doesn't help you much if a trigger signal on one side of the die depends on an instant (within the same half-cycle) response from the other side of the die. Digital logic depends heavily on such signals. With clock signals on CPU dies, one tries to have the common source in the middle of the die, like with the droplet in the pond.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:14:10 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  5. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:08:17 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies It's simpler when a single signal needs to travel to equidistant points in only one direction. Think of a droplet making a ripple in a pond. If you stretched 16 wires of equal length in a star pattern emanating from the droplet, the ripple would reach each end simultaneously. To get the same effect in a CPU chip package, one simply makes 16 equally long clock lines emanating from a single clock generator.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:08:17 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  6. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:02:09 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies That's called bouncing. Here are two diagrams showing them side by side. Bouncing is basically rapid switching. Ringing is a form of oscillation, not dissimilar to the effect one hears when clapping in certain rooms and it "sings" a tone back at you.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 19:02:09 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  7. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:56:40 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    in reply to
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies It looks like modern CPU dies are about 13.45mm on each side. That's 1/6 of a clock cycle at 4 GHz, so I'd say they're really pushing it. If I were engineering a digital circuit, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a 1/6 cycle delay. That's 1/3 of the half-cycle being used to ramp the signal up or down. I guess it works so long as less than 1/4 of the cycle is used for switching.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:56:40 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  8. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:38:41 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    in reply to
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies Fast digital circuits start hitting problems one might describe as analog. Having sufficiently crisp switching edges is one challenge. Make them too crisp and you might induce ringing (little ripples on the edges). Another challenge is the speed of light. At 4 GHz, a half a clock cycle fits across 37 mm of wire. Having components too far apart can induce significant synchronisation issues, thus the shrinking of chip sizes to get higher clock rates.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:38:41 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  9. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:25:01 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    in reply to
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies A gate doesn't need to have exactly 0V or 2.5/3.3/5V at its input to see a 0 or a 1, and such errors don't propagate to the outputs. You could say that every gate in a digital circuit doubles as a signal cleaner. Timing errors *can* propagate, which is why digital circuits can get unstable if the switching rate, as determined by the clock rate, gets too high. Switching generates heatβ€”the faster the hotterβ€”thus the need for cooling.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:25:01 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  10. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:17:30 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • The Best Floppy Ever

    @SuperFloppies There is an obvious reason for the reliability of digital circuits. As you correctly point out, digital circuits are built with analog components. The trick to reliability lies in switching thresholds. If a gate in a digital circuit has soft switching edges or is off by a half a volt, it doesn't matter. Once the signal passes through the next gate, it will get straightened out again.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:17:30 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  11. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:09:13 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    in reply to
    • horntquifax

    @shamecrystal Digital circuits are far more straight forward, but therefore also less exciting to design.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:09:13 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  12. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:06:01 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • horntquifax

    @shamecrystal The analog circuit designer's job is to manipulate these chaotic electromagnetic eddies and currents in useful ways. It's very unlike software programming because getting approximate answers is unavoidable. High precision is possible, but usually requires a lot of compensation circuitry and manual calibration, and that calibration will only be valid at the temperature you made it at, because many components are temperature sensitive.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 18:06:01 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  13. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 17:52:38 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account

    Analog circuit design is an exercise in compromises. You can only ever get a circuit to do approximately what you want, and every component you use has non-ideal properties. A diode is non-linear if there is <0.6V across it. Components have approximate values and can only dissipate so much power. Everything has thermal noise and parasitic resistance and capacitance. Getting it all to work is equal parts art and science.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 17:52:38 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  14. Mae Cah (maecah@sleeping.town)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:58:30 EDT Mae Cah Mae Cah

    Not noting ideas down immediately when they occur, but a bit later always carries with itself the risk that those ideas will be lost forever, which's regrettable.

    At the same time, noting it down is so vague it rarely provides insight later, and therefore it is better to not think that an idea is noted down well enough to be understood yet. This will force the brain to refine it and flesh it out much more specifically over time.

    In conversation Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:58:30 EDT from sleeping.town permalink Repeated by thorthenorseman
  15. Mae Cah (maecah@sleeping.town)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:57:57 EDT Mae Cah Mae Cah

    This is the essence of the creative struggle:
    When an idea is not noted down immediately when it occurs to me, hence only remains remembered somewhat abstractly, this on the other hand allows for a more creative refinement of a concept that would otherwise be considered done, but at the same time there’s always in me that wish to have captured it’s original formulation also, even through in reality I know that it must have been quite vague initially, and having its formulation wouldn’t be of much help trying to decipher the broad impressions later.

    In conversation Sunday, 08-Jul-2018 14:57:57 EDT from sleeping.town permalink Repeated by thorthenorseman
  16. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 17:31:53 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account

    I've been designing and tuning the peak detector of the 2-source 5.1 channel summing box I'm going to build. The detection envelope can be seen in green, the horizontal lines indicate the threshold voltages for 0, -6, -12 and -18 dB, and the square pulses are the LED on-off control signals for those thresholds. The waves are curved at the top because I'm inducing hysteresis into the comparators to prevent from from switching with the ripples on the detection envelope.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 17:31:53 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  17. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 13:15:58 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account

    Simulation of circuit for 5.1 summing box, with two channels active. The green line a probe on the level meter. It tracks the loudest channel at any given time. I didn't originally plan on having a level meter, but I decided that the user should at least be able to check if any of the channels are in danger of clipping, since this thing is USB-powered and doesn't have a lot of headroom. Do consumer sound cards generally stay below 1.41Vp-p on their line outputs at max volume?

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 13:15:58 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  18. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 05:25:20 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account

    @tootapp Glad to see that development is continuing. It's coming along nicely. But, here are two deal breaking issues:

    - Instance switcher: It's one of those neat but impractical ideas. It takes considerable effort to use it correctly.

    - No top tap: Nowhere brings me to the very top of a feed instantly.

    These two issues absolutely MUST be fixed before this can be my main client. They are what I'm looking for with every TestFlight update.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 05:25:20 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  19. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 05:23:55 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • Toot!.app

    @tootapp Glad to see that development is continuing. It's coming along nicely. But, here are some two breakers:

    - Instance switcher: It's one of those neat but impractical ideas. It takes considerable effort to use it correctly.

    - No top tap: Nowhere brings me to the very top of a feed instantly.

    These two features absolutely MUST be fixed before this can be my main client. I'm hoping for them with every TestFlight update.

    In conversation Sunday, 02-Sep-2018 05:23:55 EDT from octodon.social permalink
  20. πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account (thorthenorseman@octodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Sep-2018 22:27:18 EDT 🇳🇴 Thor — backup account πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Thor β€” backup account
    • Pen Merch

    @idesofmerch Ah, yes, same story here. Favourite book until someone said "I prefer Terry Pratchett for that kind of thing."

    In conversation Saturday, 01-Sep-2018 22:27:18 EDT from octodon.social permalink
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