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Notices by Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp) (lxo@gnusocial.net), page 39
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"yester" is a deprecated word, most used in a few compound forms that have survived the test of time. "yesterday", for example, was immortalized by jack malik's unforgettable song
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eu gosto de "livre" por vários motivos, mas respeito que (parece que) você não quer entrar no mérito; também não quis esticar demais a minha visão de sociedade ideal, tem muita coisa pra desempacotar e muito potencial pra comunicações tortas no caminho. tenho disposição pra elaborar mais se houver interesse.
quanto a valor, é, assumo a culpa por simplificação excessiva. lembro que no Capital I já se distingue valor de uso de valor de troca, depois no II e no III se discute formação de preço e tal, e pouco disso passa por valores subjetivos que a gente pode atribuir e cultivar. minha resposta pra esses valores subjetivos é que economia é mais voltada ao coletivo que ao individual, que marketing e propaganda tratam de inflar valores subjetivos por motivos econômicos, que adoro gostar de coisas que não são muito populares porque elas tendem a ser menos exploradas...
é bem bacana sua atitude de querer compartilhar, isso tem valor social bem grande nos meios em que habito. só que esse valor subjetivo das coisas que a gente faz, assim como o valor emocional subjetivo das associações que outras pessoas fazem às coisas que a gente produz, não são transferíveis (não tem muito como eu dar o "eu adoro isso" pra você) nem coletivos (aquele brinco que foi da bisavó querida vale mais pro bisneto, mas não pra casa de penhores). são histórias humanas preciosas, mas que não cabem na frieza da economia, senão enquanto exploração de fanaticismos :-(
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tão tentando proteger quem do quê, né?
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esse "tudo é de todos" teria uma consequência que não sei se é muito percebida, considerada a teoria de valor do carlinhos ;-)
se o valor de uma coisa é o tempo de vida e esforço útil dispendido em sua produção/extração, dizer que, após você dispender seu tempo de vida e seu esforço, a coisa não é sua, mas de todos, chega perto de afirmar que sua vida não é sua, mas é também coletiva
não chega a ser escravidão plena porque, pelo menos em tese, você ainda poderia escolher a que dedicar seu tempo e esforço, mas me parece perigosamente próximo. não rejeito em princípio, até porque parece funcionar razoavelmente bem para colônias de insetos, mas mesmo elas (as colônias) guardam o que produzem
creio que carlinhos encontrou uma solução equilíbrada e interessante, propondo não a abolição da propriedade privada, dando margem para o gozo pessoal do fruto do esforço pessoal, mas a coletivização democrática dos meios de produção, promovendo equidade e distribuição justa e coibindo a exploração.
vejo como regulação pesadíssima dos meios de produção, para que eles tendam à propriedade e gerência coletiva, com espaço para a livre iniciativa sujeita ao interesse, investimento e gerência democráticos, remunerando de forma justa empreendedores e demais trabalhadores por seu tempo e esforço dispendidos, sem porém recair nas desigualdades brutais resultantes da divisão entre exploradores e explorados. parece-me uma organização social desejável: justa, livre e democrática
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o carlinhos marques :-) conseguiu, né? a unidade de valor não é o dinheiro, é basicamente a soma de todo o esforço humano empregado na cadeia de produção/extração da coisa. seria todo o tempo e dedicação que você dispenderia se fosse fazer a coisa "do zero", usando as técnicas de aprendizagem e produção correntes. se alguém oferece de fazer por mais que esse valor, sairia mais barato você mesmo fazer; se alguém oferece de fazer por menos, pode desconfiar que tem alguma pegadinha, mas pode ser só uma combinação de eficiência de produção ainda não prevalente com não saber valorizar o próprio trabalho
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se eu lembro direito, é basicamente pra descomplicar o escambo. ter uma unidade de valor de referência com confiança pública facilita as trocas porque quem quer cerveja e tem galinhas não precisa achar um vendedor de cerveja interessado em galinhas, nem encontrar um produtor de abóbora interessado em galinhas após descobrir que o vendedor de cerveja gosta de abóboras. podeiram fazer essas trocas envolvendo papeizinhos (tipo cheques, lembra?) em que algum se compromete a entregar certa quantidade de certo bem ao portador dos papeizinhos, mas aí precisa conhecer e confiar que o emissor do papelzinho vai honrar o suposto compromisso. aí que entram os papeizinhos assinados (ou, antes, moedas cunhadas) por uma instituição com suficiente confiança pública para que todos aceitem sem pestanejar
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> companies would pay MONEY for access to a database of organizing campaigns
sounds like a business model for a uber of unions :-(
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for better or worse, you have inspired me to share a little more of myself, in another thread ;-)
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being unable to sustain as much effort as I'd like to various causes is something that was hard for me to come to terms with, to accept that it's not a character flaw, that seeking balance is essential for sustaining the efforts towards all of the causes, that struggling against oneself is draining, and that being judged for things that are hard or impossible for me by people who find them easy and have no clue how much effort they take me, how much effort it takes me just to be me, is fundamentally unfair.
and then, this applies to others as well, and the golden rule requires me to offer others the consideration and appreciation that I'd like to see offered to myself
so, yeah, I'm deeply vegan in my heart and soul, but I realize I cannot go all-in, and I allow myself to be happy that I've come as far as I have, voting with my wallet, learning to cook enough that I can prepare sustainable and healthy plant-based meals, and committing myself (so far) to making at least one vegetarian meal a day, fully aware that I'm not where I want to be and there's a long way to get there. supporting software freedom, human rights, human equity and diversity, sentient beings' rights and freedom are all philosophical beliefs I endorse and struggle to advance, and to encourage others to join, but not being a binary 1 in any of them doesn't make anyone a binary 0. the phrase "a racist on Sundays" resembles the misguided binary judgment that I've found effective at repelling support
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more concretely WRT veganism, I've long been sympathetic to the cause, for ethical and environmental reasons, and in a much broader perspective than "what do I eat", but "how do I favor behaviors, mine and others', that treat sentient beings well, rather than those that mistreat us?" (I include myself and other humans among sentient beings that should not be exploited, which makes going all-in a lot more complicated while living in a capitalist society)
other very particular complicating factors, when it comes to food specifically: most of my immediate family needs to eat gluten-free, and most of the time I join them in solidarity, and that in itself reduces brutally the pool of available choices, especially for someone who couldn't cook. there's something in chicken eggs that I need to eat regularly, otherwise I slowly sink into depression without noticing before it's too late, which makes it very hard to experiment with replacements or even to find out what nutrient it is that keeps me functional.
but none of these difficulties change how I feel about the lack of ethics in behaviors that bring harm onto sentient beings, or how I oppose them philosophically. however, the strength, the attention, and willpower I have available to fight this specific battle, rather than or in addition to other battles I chose to pick and those that I can't help picking, vary from day to day
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@janneke rats, I left out the most important and pertinent bit: that certain behaviors are more difficult for some than for others, and that it's not "just" a matter of budgets, but also of different perception of certain difficulties, and even actual personal differences that make certain behaviors more or less difficult. kind of obvious, but it took me a while to realize and then to formulate that, as I found myself unable, for various reasons, to engage as deeply with other causes as with my primary cause
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aah, late 1990s, the peak of human civilization, according to the ultimate AI the built the Matrix
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é só minha (saudável :-) paranoia falando, ou será que tem algo a ver com o computador mal assombrado?
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don't worry, I was reacting more to my past self than to anything you wrote there. it's been an interesting journey to understand myself as neurodivergent, with superpowers and limitations; finally managing to start putting my veganism in practice, after learning to cook; embracing various other social and economic justice causes that have long attracted me but that I couldn't find emotional/attention/willpower budget to do enough about; realizing that support for causes is not binary, that every little bit can help and that demanding more than we (or others) can give often backfires... these have all been things I've learned in my many years of activism and getting things wrong :-) some recently, some longer ago, and I'm coming to this notion that sharing about them might do more good than keeping them to myself. I wonder if there'd be interest in a speech about the activism-relevant aspects of this personal journey at e.g. free software conferences such as libreplanet. would people enjoy such a meta thing?
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> Does every bad thing become a good thing if we prefix it with “open?”
that didn't work for open source software. it was kind of the opposite, really.
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thank you very much for sharing
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"bootstrap" is an overloaded term, with two relatively similar meanings. in that context, I meant the way it's used in compiler development, i.e., having the compiler go through stages of compiling itself and comparing outputs as part of its regular (native) build process, for verification purposes
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how about "I don't always have the same energy / willpower budget to fight every form of injustice, and expecting me to do is itself an injustice"?
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as for retaining control... whose control are you talking about? when using third-party servers, users have no control, whether the third-party server is run as part of a centralized or a federated service. if they run their own server, that server becomes part of a static server-side P2P network, that is no better than running an integrated client&server that keeps local data local with remote replicas, but is worse in that it doesn't enjoy the advantages of dynamic redundancy, and it brings the entire service down for the user in case their "master replica" dies.
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now, what's really absurd to me is your arguing that servers are somehow superior to P2P, and that they may downgrade to P2P if they so wish, when, besides the success cases of P2P I mentioned, and the failures of centralized and semi-centralized servers I also mentioned, every one of the big centralized systems people use amount to clusters of servers talking to each other in P2P fashion. federation disperses the power, compared with fully centralized systems, but does so in a way that makes each user still dependent on a single server, and federated servers typically don't have the stability that replicated storage brings, nor the redundancy of servers operating in P2P clusters behind the scenes while appearing to be a single server to the users. that is not, and cannot be more reliable than distributed services with redundancy. each server is actually a lot less reliable than replicated services, and though when they fail, it's not a worldwide disaster because users who have their home on the failed server are typically not so many, it can still be a tragedy for those users.
whereas with P2P systems I'm familiar with, typically all you need to backup are your keys, and starting from them, the P2P software can locate and recover your data from the network, you don't even need to set up another account, and you don't have to worry about third parties not wanting to host your account any more
Alexandre Oliva (moved to @lxo@gnusocial.jp)
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