JC Brand
Getting a demo up and running is pretty easy IMO and other people have complimented me on making it easy.
There's a "quickstart" section in the docs and there are multiple live demos in the repo.
https://conversejs.org/docs/html/quickstart.html
Converse can be used in various different ways and therefore has many configuration options which can be daunting to people.
But it has IMO sane defaults.
I'd be happy to hear suggestions on how to make it easier for people.
Norbert Tretkowski
My employer @b1systems is now sponsoring #Converse, an #XMPP web client developed by @jcbrand.
https://conversejs.org/#sponsors
JC Brand
Each generation or age has certain fashions wrt names and words
When I was born, double-barrel names were in vogue.
Certain uncommon names associated with older people used to be fashionable when they were born.
Similarly, some lesser known words become popular for a while (until they're overused and lose their appeal).
"Leverage" is one. Nowadays people leverage things, instead of just using them.
Another one is "plethora".
JC Brand
RT @mattblaze@twitter.com
Devices are now marketed as “smart” if they are unable to function unless in contact with a remote command and control network that tells them what to do, which seems like the opposite of “smart” to me. https://twitter.com/gdead/status/1083714843834761219
🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/mattblaze/status/1083728169172172801
JC Brand
The HN discussion was quite interesting:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18872376
Apparently it's not as bad as QZ implies:
JC Brand
BTW, MUC-OMEMO is coming to Converse.js in the next release (soon) and there's a good chance that support for XEP-0374 OX will also be added this year.
𝓻𝓻𝓪
On the 30th of january the #XMPP community is organizing a development sprint focused on #UX and #UI in the XMPP ecosystem.
XMPP is a long standing protocol for federated chat which in recent years underwent impressive technical modernization that brought the ecosystem modern mobile clients, cross device chat and end-to-end encryption based on Signal.
The XMPP community organizes so-called sprints where developers gather from across Europe to work on the ecosystem.
Even though the ecosystem saw many improvements in recent years, the UX across the ecosystem still leaves a lot to be desired. To begin addressing this, the next XMPP Sprint will be focused on UX and UI, particularly in regards to naming conventions.
That is why we’d like to invite members of the open source design community to join us on the 30th of January in the offices of Open Source Publishing[1]. On february the 1st we will also do a smaller meetup in the margins of FOSDEM.
If you already have an account on the XMPP network, join us in our Sprint chatroom:
xmpp:xmpp-sprint@chat.cluxia.eu?join
If you don’t, the room is also accessible without an account via:
https://chat.cluxia.eu/anon/#xmpp-sprint
For more information have a look at:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2019_January_Brussels
[1]: http://osp.kitchen
𝓻𝓻𝓪
Issue to support #xmpp URI in the mastodon web interface:
https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/9776
Please voice your support on the issue tracker if you use XMPP
Inspired by @ButterflyOfFire
JC Brand
RT @ggreenwald@twitter.com
Yes, the way the US media calls every rich Russian an "oligarch" but never uses that term for US billionaires is extremely revealing about how they propagandize for nationalistic purposes. https://twitter.com/JarrodCurrin/status/1083096664737566722
🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1083097119702114304
JC Brand
RT @wikileaks@twitter.com
🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1082442276331315201
ultrageranium
If you use #prosody the #XMPP server, the devs are running a survey!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDAfFivg9Jv5cdReMjT8fHUODK2b1V7L0RHuIZzlT93vl2Xg/viewform
JC Brand
RT @newsycbot@twitter.com
Happy Birthday, XMPP 20th Anniversary of Jabber http://bit.ly/2R8OtSC (cmts http://bit.ly/2Fdd1CP)
🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/newsycbot/status/1081230276351705089
JC Brand
The latest XMPP newsletter is out again: https://xmpp.org/2019/01/the-xmpp-newsletter-4-january-2019/
JC Brand
RT @xmpp@twitter.com
Today is Jabber's 20th anniversary!
On this day in 1999 Jeremie Miller announced an "Open Real Time Messaging System" on Slashdot.
https://slashdot.org/story/99/01/04/1621211/open-real-time-messaging-system
JC Brand
Converse is available as a Roundcube plugin:
https://github.com/devurandom/roundcube-converse.js-xmpp-plugin
German email provider mailbox.org also provides the fullscreen version of Converse:
JC Brand
I've thought about the similarity to the "Year of Linux on the Desktop" meme as well.
JC Brand
Yes, I agree with that.
There is the XSF (XMPP Standards Foundation), but they leave a lot to be desired and have very little interest in helping FOSS developers.
In the interest of "impartiality" they don't want to help certain clients improve (which is something many people ask for... i.e. "lets focus on a few clients and make them better").
In part because the XSF includes people building proprietary XMPP apps.
So it appears as if a different foundation might be needed.
JC Brand
If you're interested in hacking on Converse, the web-based XMPP client (for example integrating it into Pleroma or Mastodon), let me know, I'd be happy to help you.
JC Brand
I've heard this sentiment before multiple times, and I agree completely.
This however means much, much more work and expertise that protocol (or client/server) developers don't necessarily have.
There are very few UI and UX designers active in the FOSS world (relative to the amount of developers and to their involvement in proprietary software).
IMO, it's not fair or realistic to expect devs to carry all this load.
JC Brand
> But I dare to say a lot of the issues of #XMPP could be resolved if the community just focussed on some of these
I'm not aware of anything that someone has complained about that the XMPP community doesn't know and for which there aren't people working on solutions.
Many of these people are volunteers and spend their life energy and time on this massive task, without any compensation.
And they're competing with multi-billion dollar companies.
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