Notices tagged with noscript

@alfred browser is #Firefox 68.0.2 64-bit (#ABrowser distribution) running on #Trisquel 8.0 (updated today). I'm running #uBlockOrigin 1.24.2 (disabled for Libranet.de) and #NoScript 11.0.9 (with libranet.de set to "trusted").

@billstclair I don't suggest that you reimplement your entire app in HTML. I'm suggesting that you provide a single JS-free landing page. For an example, visit the pixelfed.social login page, with JS off or blocked. As you say, browsers (like #Brave) are gradually adding controls that #MakeJavascriptOptional, and many more people are using script control plugins like #NoScript or #LibreJS. So web makers need to get used to not being able to run scripts on a visitors PC without opt-in.

Experimented with allowing #NoScript to set all top-level domains to trusted, allowing them to run #Javascript without me opting in. First time my browser almost crashed my system since the first time I installed NoScript. Thanks, but no thanks bloated JS developers of the world ;)
#MakeJavascriptOptional!

@rugk I was a user who didn't know much about JS. I also didn't know that it was constantly crashing my browser, or even my whole OS. Then I discovered #NoScript. The frustration involved in selectively approving JS when I really need a site to work, is *much* less than the frustration of constantly losing work to crashes, and my PC running like a lame snail whenever I had a browser open. As a bonus my privacy is protected from spying by FB, goOgle etc when it relies on third-party JS.
@Shamar

I'm so sick of websites websites refusing to even display text and images if I don't agree to run their proprietary Javascript on my computer. Isn't it time that browsers started treating requests to run Javascript like requests to use the mic or camera, and asked the user before allowing them? Ideally with crowdsourced info about what the scripts are, and what they do? In other words, make something like #NoScript a standard part of browsers.

@njoseph I used to have a lot of trouble with my browser until I installed #NoScript. The problem is not the browser itself, but the screeds of badly engineered #Javascript that almost every website tries to make it run. The problem gets worse the more tabs you have open at once.

@z428 you seem to be totally ignoring the way people actually use the web. There's no way I can help to fund every website I might one day want to visit. When I click on a result in a search engine, I have no idea what the business model of that site is. I do know that if I don't have my AdBlocker and #NoScript turned on a) my browser might crash, and b) my privacy might be invaded. Using an AdBlocker is just basic security, like using an Antivirus on Windows.
@pootz

@z428
2) your comment severely understates the benefits of #AdBlockers. My laptop used to crash *constantly* until I installed #NoScript. Had I not been using an adblocker, the web would have been completely unusable for me.
@pootz @sophia

Sure, newspaper website, I'll turn off my ad-blocker and #NoScript for your site. When you turn off all the #JavaScript that tracks me and makes my browser crash, so all I see is static placed ads, just like I would if I read your print edition.

@bhaugen @ldubost I'm using #ABrowser on Trisquel 8 (basically deblobbed #Ubuntu). ABrowser is basically #Firefox, minus all the proprietary bits and anti-features, plus any privacy protection turned on by default. Current version is 63.0.3, but I've tried to use Cryptpad many time on previous versions, no joy. I also have #uBlockOrigin and #NoScript installed, but I've tried disabling them both when looking at Cryptpads, no luck.

@bhaugen I saw your comment on Loomio about annoying auto-playing videos on web pages. I highly recommend the #NoScript plug-in as a way of stopping this from happening. It stops any third-party JS being run in your browser without your permission, which prevents auto-playing media, but also stops a whole bunch of trackers (#goOgleAnalticks), malware, and so on. Since I installed it, my browser runs much faster and never crashes, which it used to do regularly.

@Shamar
> #NoScript is not enough to prevent these attacks

Oh I agree. Just using it as a proof-of-concept for what you are proposing, and how it doesn't break the web for users. In fact, if it's built into the browser by default, the #UX could be much better.

@Shamar people will say that users will be inconvenienced if they have to opt-in to running JS in their browser. That doesn't stop Windows and Mac from popping up warnings when you try to run third-party software directly on the OS. Similarly, if you only have to opt-in the first time you use a given site (and can choose whether to allow goOgle Anal-ticks etc), it's not that inconvenient, and very educational. This is how I use #NoScript

The publicly-owned radio network in #Aotearoa (#NZ) does this too. It's infuriating. I only know about it because I use #NoScript (which is an awesome add-on):
https://www.radionz.co.nz/