Notices tagged with ssb, page 4

thurloat 📌 (thurloat@mastodon.club)'s status on Friday, 07-Sep-2018 13:24:32 EDT thurloat 📌
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Wrote a little more about Dough, the #DoH proxy server, and short term plans on #ssb / #scuttlebutt last night too.
You can read it here: %25vzE14HVJTtmVdtw%2BmXH4TYycr%2BXnajufF389aCfdTnc%3D.sha256
or via public viewer 🤓 :
http://eight45.net:8807/%25vzE14HVJTtmVdtw+mXH4TYycr+XnajufF389aCfdTnc=.sha256

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thurloat 📌 (thurloat@mastodon.club)'s status on Thursday, 06-Sep-2018 14:26:31 EDT thurloat 📌

Anyone using #ssb + #gitssb know of a good way to manage releases / binaries?
I feel like hauling around blobs in the repos would be super taxing on a log network, maybe torrent distribution would work better?

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Qweerty 🐙 (medusa@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 05-Aug-2018 13:23:37 EDT Qweerty 🐙

Maybe someone who knows more about #scuttlebutt and #ssb has an idea if it could work through those?

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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jul-2018 22:18:11 EDT Strypey
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- Drew DeVault
@sir #GitTorrent is one attempt to solve the decentralized GH problem, your #sr.ht is another, #GitPub is another, #Git-SSB is another (https://github.com/noffle/git-ssb-intro). Each one tries using a different standardized of protocols (#BitTorrent, email, #ActivityPub, #SSB). Ideally it would be possible to bridge them all, so users and projects could hosted anywhere, and users could contribute anywhere
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1. noffle/git-ssb-intro
  
  from GitHub
  
  git-ssb-intro - :wrench: Learn git-ssb: a decentralized GitHub alternative.
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 11:55:54 EDT Strypey
@xj @mayel @cwebber @bhaugen I like the concept (see the shower thought that kicked off this thread), but I'm not sure how authentication works in a completely diffuse system? How do I tie posts to (one or more) consistent IDs? How do I prove to a relay I have permission to post as that ID? I'm curious about how #SSB (Secure #Scuttelbutt) deals with these issues

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h (h@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 04-Jun-2018 11:34:35 EDT h

As others have pointed out one possible option is git-ssb:
https://social.coop/@bhaugen/100140415
For those #IPFS-inclined, there's some projects which help with rehosting and managing git repos over the p2p network
1 https://github.com/larsks/git-remote-ipfs
2 https://github.com/larsks/git-remote-ipfs
3 https://medium.com/@alexberegszaszi/mango-git-completely-decentralised-7aef8bcbcfe6
We're almost there
#FuckMicrosoft #FuckGithub #github #git #ssb
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1. larsks/git-remote-ipfs
  
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  Contribute to git-remote-ipfs development by creating an account on GitHub.
Mayel - ghost account (mayel@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 04-Jun-2018 10:49:59 EDT Mayel - ghost account
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- bhaugen
Another option is git-ssb:
https://social.coop/@bhaugen/100140415211552608
#gitssb #git #ssb #SecureScuttlebot cc @bhaugen
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Mayel - ghost account (mayel@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-May-2018 10:19:00 EDT Mayel - ghost account
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- bhaugen
@bhaugen
#foss
#mayday
#facebook
#retail
#scuttlebutt
#btv
#zotero
#commons
#rainpsc
#python
#toronto
#bitcoin
#blockchain
#faircoin
#tocouncil
#digital
#privacy
#nyc
#freesoftware
#vr
#selfie
#community
#smallstories
#netneutrality
#education
#switter
#london
#anarchism
#topoli
#nextcloud
#capitalismkills
#bunny
#tech
#edinburgh
#vt
#liberapay
#mozilla
#caturday
#dlws
#ssb
#google
#mastobunnies
#childrenoftime
#platformcooperativism

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Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 21-Apr-2018 06:09:50 EDT Danyl Strype
- mikedd
@mikedd ae, #SSB links have been posted on HN a few time, but that one and this one ...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16273096

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Rain 🚱 (grainloom@cybre.space)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Apr-2018 16:19:27 EDT Rain 🚱

"The #Decentralized #Web "
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=izQFMADw70w
#talk #ssb #ipfs #zerotier #dat #decent #decentralization

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worst girl 🏴‍☠️ (xj9@sunshinegardens.org)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Apr-2018 12:03:30 EDT worst girl 🏴‍☠️

> emailPub | A bridge between traditional email and #ssb
http://viewer.heropunch.io/%25YTzf4lA3JBTu4YKcdP9D4kPa7CmWJUJ%2BylXXvTqyPUk%3D.sha256

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Mayel - ghost account (mayel@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Apr-2018 06:11:34 EDT Mayel - ghost account
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- fridaysforfuture, but everyday
- nicooo
@paulfree14 @nicooo
looks like an early approach to what #SSB is now doing

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Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2018 23:27:20 EDT Danyl Strype
- clacke
- mikedd
hey @mikedd you're involved in dev for #SSB and some of its clients, is that right? @clacke

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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2018 06:57:14 EDT clacke

How do the various media forms of blogs, microblogs and other things relate to fast and slow thinking, and what could the free networks do to encourage different forms of expression?

https://worldofvalues.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/decentralized-social-media-and-system-1-thinking/

In related news, http://ticktack.im/ is adding a blog post type to #ssb.
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  Decentralized social media and System 1 Thinking
  
  By Harry Underwood from World of Values
  Reading this criticism of social media platforms by Motherboard, I had quite a few questions, mostly centered around “does this apply as well to decentralized social media platforms as well as to centralized social silos?”
  
  Decentralizing and open-sourcing the biggest web content services – microblogging sites, video hosting sites, photo sharing/storage sites – would satisfy the goal of reducing censorship. But:
  
  would it only reward and accelerate faster System 1 thinking over slower System 2 thinking?
  
  Would it help reduce instances of abuse?
  
  If this were to be as decentralized as email, would it allow for both big conglomerate-owned and small business-owned hosts to communicate with each other equally?
  
  How would this decentralization of social media interface with democracy?
  
  Social media’s interfacing with democracy also been hotly debated for years, with its early centralized instances being praised as liberating to protesters in less-democratic societies, while it’s more recent instances are criticized for having rewarded and armed the ascendancy of more reactive, illiberal politics.
  
  This, of course, has only taken place within the last 20 years. To compare the Internet to the enduring nearly-600-year utility of the movable-type printing press, which has helped propagate movements as varied as the Reformation and the Age of Enlightment, is disproportionate by scale of time. We still have yet to see how far that Internet-based communication systems will take us and accelerate our scientific, academic and political development with similar speed and depth as movable type. So far, it has enabled the development of the largest encyclopedia in human history, a development that would astound the likes of Vannevar Bush.
  
  But what of social media, or specifically of microblogging? Is there a tangential benefit or empowering utility to microblogging? Does microblogging’s river of statuses help spread knowledge? And is there a benefit to decentralizing this tool beyond a few siloed hosts who compete against each other?
  
  What we do know is that it is highly useful to journalists, activists, politicians and those who rely upon real-time, first-hand information provision and reception. However, if the tools also allow for others to poison the river with false information, microblogging becomes a liability. But will microblogging advance us beyond allowing people to report news, pop off at each other and start social movements quicker than traditional posts?
  
  I think there is still some benefit to microblogging of statuses and asides, even decentralized open-source microblogging, but it doesn’t replace longer-form multimedia expressions. There is still a utility for WordPress as there is for Mastodon as there is for MediaGoblin as there is for PeerTube. They can all work together, work in decentralized server networks and talk with each other.
  
  What about more traditional blogging and its benefits? The suite of blogging services which became available in the 2000s with the growth of RSS feeds and media enclosures allowed writers and broadcasters to publish and livestream multimedia works outside of the limitations of print and broadcast media, as well as to reach Internet-based audiences with greater flexibility than previously. Of course, this also allowed for System 1 thinking to take greater precedence than ever before, as filters for self-checking were less necessary than before. However, this blogging landscape was less centralized than the current microblogging scene. Blogger, LiveJournal, Xanga, Dreamjournal, Typepad, self-served WordPress sites, etc., all serve RSS feeds for those who wish to catch content from all of those sites. Did democracy also decline with this growth of blogging and podcasting sites?
  
  Of course, what has also changed from earlier blogging – in a BIG way – is how people reply to posts. More sites are dropping Disqus or even their own comment systems, delegating to social media silos the job of hosting replies to link-syndicated content. On-site comment moderation and hosting is declining as centralized social media networks host the commentariat and are, through Facebook Connect, sometimes integrated into the on-site comment section.
  
  This may slightly change if decentralized social media networks – enabled with ActivityPub – become the hosts of such embedded comment systems. But Facebook’s closest decentralized open-source cousins in layout structure are Diaspora and Hubzilla, while Mastodon hangs much closer to Twitter’s more haphazard style of treating every reply to a post as an original post in itself (a layout which has been criticized as elevating abusive posters and their replies).
  
  We have spent the last few years despairing about how the centralized social networks have unleashed an abusive commentariat or maybe a more abusive, combative aspect of ourselves, or even both. Maybe this has a lot to do with the design of the system – with haphazard layout giving high visibility to every single reply to a post, with centralization of social media around a few massive hosts and their apps, with not allowing the full capability of filtering who sees/shares/replies to one’s posts, with prioritization around a constant river of media rather than a more deliberate layout, with a reliance on self-serve advertisements as a source of financial sustenance.
  
  There’s a lot to “unfuck” about social media now that we have decentralized, customizable alternatives which don’t have to exactly replicate the designs of the silos. The silos were designed and programmed to keep users using the sites as much as possible in order to keep advertisers flush w/ cash, no matter how combative and toxic that many of these users became against each other within close digital proximity. A decentralized, federated social media shouldn’t have to rely on replicating the “addictive”, constant-river designs of Facebook and Twitter in order to attract users, although I understand that this is what we have to deal with in making or using open-source alternatives to anything that’s corporate, proprietary and popular.
  
  Decentralized social media – basically, going beyond mere (micro)blogging to sharing/favoriting/quote-linking posts between servers – has an opportunity to serve a greater purpose to humanity and come under a more democratized governance than what we have seen in the last decade. But it also has an opportunity to be moved away from faster, more combative “System 1” thinking to slower, more thoughtful “System 2” thinking.
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2018 02:53:58 EDT Danyl Strype
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- Danyl Strype
Here's a run-down on using Patchwork, the flagship #SSB client
https://transitiontech.ca/howto/patchwork

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Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2018 02:36:57 EDT Danyl Strype

Like #Zot, #SSB (Secure #Scuttlebutt) is a fairly new social network protocol:
https://scuttlebot.io/more/protocols/secure-scuttlebutt.html

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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-2018 13:28:53 EDT clacke
@pettter @rysiek @herrabre @bjoern

> An e-mail _server_, OStatus _server_, XMPP _server_ etc. need to be available _all the time_, or near enough to make no difference.

That is only true because of how the protocols work.

#ssb is designed to handle intermittent connections and drop points. There is no global blockchain. There is an issue of how much to replicate and how much to miss out on, and pubs are doing maybe a bit too much work, but those things are being worked on as well, improving granularity along various axes.

For IM, sure, if you want to send offline messages your peers need to be online at the same time at some point, but for people you usually have synchronous conversations with, this isn't a big issue.

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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-2018 09:42:09 EDT clacke
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@ebel @pettter @rysiek @herrabre @bjoern

> Just as Systematic Colonization was developed to establish the capitalist mode of production in the colonies, anti-disintermediation was [developed] to colonize cyberspace. The basic strategy of anti-disintermediation was formulated by economists like Carl Shapiro and Hal R. Varian. Their influential book Information Rules encourages platform owners to pursue "lock-in." As Varian explains, "Since information technology products work in systems, switching any single product can cost users dearly. The lock-in that results from such switching costs confers a huge competitive advantage to firms that manage their installed base of customers effectively."

[ . . . ]

> Central to the counter-anti-disintermediationist design is the End-to-End principle: platforms must not depend on servers and admins, even when cooperatively run, but must, to the greatest degree possible, run on the computers of the platform’s users. The computational capacity and network access of the users’ own computers must collectively make up the resources of the platform, such that, on average, each new user adds net resources to the platform. By keeping the computational capacity in the hands of the users, we prevent the communication platform from becoming capital, and we prevent the users from being instrumentalized as an audience commodity.

TL;DR: Kill the server-web as the backbone of personal communications.

#ssb #p2p

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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Mar-2018 22:55:36 EDT clacke
- Nicole
- acb
@acb @funbreaker #ssb #securescuttlebutt

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clacke (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Mar-2018 00:11:33 EDT clacke

http://viewer.scuttlebot.io/%256ydEUwOTB7X2JLxj9irwGPg7kJhAbP9rioOYXalvIq4%3D.sha256 looks like an interesting thread with several parallel threads linked to. The tension between onboarding and tightly-knit networks is becoming very obvious.

#ssb

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