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@anna
which is my real point: the system is broken, and these "please CW your ________ posts" are just symptomatic of this bad design.
ontological tagging, on the other hand, is the correct activitystreams way of doing this. it is literally in the spec. -
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@zoe if people stopped using vanilla mastodon, we might be able to replace CWs with frictionless ontological tags which would basically end all of this "please CW your posts" discussions -
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make CWs message subjects again and actually use ontological tagging for filtering
it's not only better, it's the recommended way to do it in activitypub -
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@lain it is frustrating because pleroma has all the plumbing for real ontological post tagging, but mastodon will never implement it, so we will be stuck with this broken shit forever -
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please CW your "please CW your _________ posts" posts -
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@kaikatsu @anna @zoe
it's a simple three step plan that Gargron does not care about, so instead i get to read "please CW your _____________ posts" every day because his software is broken. Pleroma already has a prototype of this system in FE using the CW system, but it can be better yet.
1. remove the CW field, stop using `as:summary` for CWs
2. add tag lists to messages (including default tag lists + tag detection based on keywords or phrases) as actual `as:tags`
3. add the ability in clients to use this tagging data to expand or collapse posts as desired (including giving the user the opportunity to default to "collapse everything" which impersonates the current CW system for anyone who actually likes that) -
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@anna @zoe
who says i'm not doing that. i just don't wish to use the CW system for ontological tagging (such as "food", or "eye contact") because clients auto-censor by default.
a good system is one which allows people to classify their content while allowing recipients to present the content according to THEIR wishes.
or, let me put it more plainly: when you ask people to participate in their own self-censorship because the software is so completely broken that it self-censors by default instead of allowing the end user to configure the behaviour *they* want, you're legitimizing a system that punishes users. -
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@zoe @anna @one
i bring it up because like everything else in mastodon, it is a half-assed broken tool that is so broken that you have to write whiny posts to make people use.
as i have said, i am down to implement something that does not require people to go out of their way to use. but that is not the mastodon system. -
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@anna
i've said it before and i'll say it again, i *am* down for having ontological data on posts.
i am NOT down for going out of my way to give people who probably don't even follow me special treatment, because they feel they are owed it.
if i can give somebody tools that help them filter content that require no special curation steps from me, GREAT. but that's not what mastodon's broken CW system is, and i choose not to participate in it. if it were solely up to ME, Pleroma would not even support it at all, because it is so fucking broken. -
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@one @anna
exactly. this isn't about CWing anything, but instead social capital. if somebody ever actually responded to anything i posted with "actually, i have ____________, and this post makes me uncomfortable" then and ONLY THEN would i reconsider -
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@Laurelai that's not my point though. when i refer to "antifa" i am explicitly referring to the strawman that reactionaries use. riseup is not operated by that strawman. -
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@anna
really? i live with someone who has an eating disorder and they say it is STUPID too. -
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@Laurelai and your point is what? that does not mean it is operated by antifa (which it is not) -
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an MRF which automatically bans "please CW your ______ posts" posts and their authors -
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@rin quality stuff -
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@wowaname no -
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@lanodan i just do what the hell i want to -
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@zoe if you don't like it, click block -
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i post untagged food if you don't like it click unfollow