Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 134

... conveniently ignoring the fact that these are exactly the sort of users Moxie proudly encourages to use #Signal. I can't find the quotes right now, but there's a number of public comments where he's justified Signal's technical decisions by waxing lyrical about all the dissenters and journalists who have protected their communications from totalitarian states using it.

Someone on #HackerNews falls into a typical black/white fallacy about computer security:
"If you are so concerned about state-level actors that play store is untenable to you, signal and android on commodity hardware are probably not the solutions you want anyways."
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17723973

This evening I bought a set of small screwdrivers and fixed my laptop (SSD had come loose). I was feeling all smug and thinking I can't imagine what it would be like to be one of those people who has to pay someone hundreds of dollars every time their PC breaks down. Then I realized when it comes to almost anything that isn't a computer, I am that person ;-)

@enkiv2 why do you mean by "a jake" here? I hadn't come across this term, and I'm finding a vast range of contradictory definitions:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jake
@clacke @scolobb

@z428 being developed and promoted by Google probably gives Electron a major advantage. Did you see my post suggesting #Ionic as an alternative? There are others too.
@jcbrand @shura

@z428 These coops are mostly working in a consultancy model, where they expect an organization to approach them with a set of requirements and a stack of cash. That works for larger companies and non-profits, with established revenue streams, but not for individuals, families, community groups etc. I think what's missing is a product-based approach, like what #Loomio and mastodon.host offer. Here's the service, here's the problem is solves for users, here's what it costs.
@jcbrand

@z428 it's a bit of a #Catch22. There are potential customers, like you, unable to find a reliable vendor. There are also heaps of ethical tech #cooperatives out there desperately looking for paying customers (eg I recently met some people from #WebArchitects and #CoLab).
@jcbrand

@clacke that's a great piece, thanks for sharing it.
> "Versioning is integrated with the environment and with the live editor. You can see all changes, revert to any, and navigate through the tree (even to previously-undone branches) or branch off part of a version tree as a new widget type."
https://hackernoon.com/some-tentative-guidelines-for-gui-composability-2900abead1d9

This sounds vaguely like what #GNU #Guix and the #GuixSD distribution are trying to do.
@enkiv2 @scolobb

@clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion threads he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns?https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121

@clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion thread he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns?
https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121

@clacke the main reason people don't use a GNU/Linux distro on their desktops and laptops is the same reason most people don't use #Replicant, #LineageOS, or #SailFish on their mobile device. Which is that most people are not confident about installing a postmarket OS on any device. That's why I'm using the vanilla #Android that came with my mobile, despite using #Trisquel on laptops and desktops for years. I don't know how to swap out the OS without bricking the device.
@enkiv2 @scolobb

@clacke fair enough, but this brings me back to your original comment, which I think was totally true when I started experimenting with #RedHat and #Mandrake in the early 2000s. But more recently, I've helped newbies install and use #Mint (or #Trisquel if they hardware supports it), and they can do everything they need to do in the GUI.
@enkiv2 @scolobb

The #Steam store is facing real competition in online game sales. But for all the legitimate criticisms of its non-free software, Steam has done a lot to make gaming on #GNU #Linux more viable, including #SteamOS. Has its competitors? Is what's bad for Steam, good for Windows?
https://thenextweb.com/gaming/2018/12/04/fortnite-epic-games-steam-rival-digital-store/

@fashywhitefem I'm confused. Who is "we"? Better than what? Are we talking about internet platforms or election systems?
@CharredStencil

@djsumdog sounds like a good plot for a thriller movie, with plenty of twists and turns ;) Even if it's true though, it doesn't change what we know about the #5Eyes agencies and their cozy relationships with the #datafarm companies. People are arguing over whether the datafarms are subverting states or vice-versa. It's like arguing which cheek is in charge of someone's face.

@LWFlouisa in fact, that's a really useful analogy for explaining the #fediverse to newbies. It's like a busy city centre, and each instance is a cafe where people can gather to talk. Anyone can set up their own cafe, and everyone can decide which cafes to frequent (by deciding which users to follow).

@LWFlouisa think of a fediverse instance as being like a cross between a newspaper and a bar. They are a publisher on the web, but also a space where a community gathers. In either case though, they are private organizations that nobody is forced to associate with, so I'd argue they have a right to set their own editorial policies and rules of behaviour #ROAR

@funbreaker #Egroups, #Upcoming.org, del.icio.us, #Zimbra ... There's a long list of acquisitions here, and it only goes up to 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Yahoo!

@bhtooefr have you looked into #GNU #Taler? I envision a time when every #DigitalCafe has a Taler 'cash register', so users can pay subscriptions, give donations etc according to the rules set by the host. I think they're still looking for banking organizations willing to run trials with them (any #CreditUnions out there willing to try this?)
https://www.taler.net/
@sean @pea