Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 94

@musicman @cwebber
Hmm, OK. As I mentioned in a couple of posts, #IANAL. I must have misread or misremembered a press release or something, from around the time the 4.0 licenses were released. I'm a bit concerned by this, as the whole point of #CC licenses is to give people certainty about what they can and can't do with a work, without having to check with the creator. Having to see what happens in court is exactly the opposite of how it's meant to work.

@trwnh there are pro-capitalist liberals (the ones who have appropriated the name "libertarians" but are more accurately "propertarians"), who are not part of the left, but who the left can work with on some issues. Mainly issues that involve resisting the "state" facet of capitalism, rather than the "corporate" facet; campaigns against mass surveillance, drug prohibition, imperialist war, voter suppression, and so on. #MargaretKilljoy explains this well:
http://birdsbeforethestorm.net/2016/10/lower-leftism-expanding-upon-the-political-map/
@PaladinQuinn

@trwnh I agree that there's no *pro*-capitalist left. There's a libertarian left that is pro-*market* but anti-capitalist (#C4SS etc). There's a pragmatic social democratic left who accept capitalism (like Hillary) as the "lesser of 2 evils". There are another bunch of left liberals who prefer to avoid arguing about abstractions like "capitalism" and focus on bread-and-butter labour and green like #ZeroHourContracts or #MassExtinction (1/2) ...
@PaladinQuinn

@ailurocrat WORD! Teabags are the instant coffee of tea. Sometimes in China the teabags are made of plastic (eek!)
@cj

@ailurocrat I guess we'll see how that pans out. They've definitely been saved from shutting down, so that's a big plus in my book. If you have any more information about KitSplit, their legal entity, their business structure, or their investors, please do share. I'd like to learn more about our new audio overlords ... ;-)
@cwebber @emacsen

@noorul you don't have to give up chocolate. Just look for dark chocolate that contains no dairy products. Availability varies from country to country, but there are heaps of options in Aotearoa (NZ), and we've even found some dairy-free chocolate here in China. Same goes for ice-cream. There are various options; sorbet, gelatin-free gelato, ice cream made from soy, almond, coconut etc (coconut ice cream and yoghurt are *amazing*!)

@deejoe @adfeno please untag me from any thread that starts up about XMPP. I've been involved in a a number lengthy discussions on the fediverse recently about the pros and cons of XMPP as it exists today, in real use cases. I really must smash out a blog post on it, so I can just link to that.

@alatiera I don't understand the question. I see you are involved in GNOME, so I assume you are referring to my recent comments about that. I'm just sharing my experiences and the result of my research, with the intention of helping other users. Are you saying I'm wrong that the minimum specs for running GNOME (useably) haven't increased massively in the last 10 years?
@noorul

@noorul I took out dairy products, one by one, over about 5 years. First milk, then cheese, then yoghurt, and finally chocolate and ice cream ;) Doing it very gradually like this allowed my gut biota to adapt, and gave me time to find replacement foods I liked at a manageable rate.

@mathieu @noorul 3 years old was an estimate, based on my experiences with 'Bishop', a laptop of similar pedigree to the 2008 one you mention. YMMV depending on how powerful a given device was for its age, whether it's been upgraded etc. "Barely usable" is hardly an encouraging sales pitch ;) Whereas Mate flies like an eagle on Bishop, and is my everyday desktop for both work and leisure.

@bob replace or reclaim, for sure. Note that Dennis wasn't specifying the W3C, and neither am I. Maybe we need to get a formal fediverse standards body set up, independent of W3C? It could still feed recommendations into W3C processes, but as long as the people involved were broadly representative of all the implementers, it could play a role akin to that of the XMPP Standards Foundation.

@kensanata yeah drift is tricky. One way to mitigate this is to include as many "official" accounts as possible, which are always going to be (mostly) focused on one topic area. @lightone has been making a list on the research wiki for fediverse.party:
https://gitlab.com/fediverse/fediverse.gitlab.io/wikis/Official-Fediverse-accounts
@carbontwelve @Thepunkgeek @ChangelingRandy @eloisa

Also, despite it's robust XEP processes, XMPP has a *terrible* #UX when it comes to inter-operation across services. The only basic chat function that works reliably across all XMPP implementations is realtime text chat (not file-sharing, or voice/ video, or screen-sharing or numerous other functions modern chat users consider essential).
In that respect, it's an example for AP folks of how *not* to run a federation of federated networks.

However, his comparison with #XMPP is mind-blogging. Yes, the #XMPPFoundation has developed a good process for formalizing extensions to the base standard (#XEPs). Yes, this is something #ActivityPub folks could learn from. But the XMPP spec was first published in 2004. The final AP 1.0 standard was only published last year, give it time!

I agree with two points Dennis Schubert of Diaspora raises here;
* we must design with end users in mind. Smooth #UX is key if we ever want federated social networking to win in our revolution against centralized #DataFarms
* work on public standards needs to happen at public standards bodies. Specifying a standard for inter-operation protocols is pointless if every implementer has to talk to every other implementer to get things to work properly.

Here's the "final" comment on #ActivityPub by the informal spokesperson on inter-operationg from the #Diaspora project:
https://schub.io/blog/2019/01/13/activitypub-final-thoughts-one-year-later.html

@kensanata for example, I'm vegan (it's in my short bio), and I'd be happy to be followed and @mentioned by other vegans/ vegetarians. But the vast majority of what I post about is free code software, free culture, open source and other commons-based peer production, and digital freedom issues (user freedom, privacy etc).

@kensanata I would be happy to be on one or more Trunk lists. Is the idea that these are just lists of people interested in Topic X, or lists of people who post mainly about Topic X?

#Trunk is a great project I just learned about that helps new #fedizens (users of the #fediverse) find interesting people to follow and interact with. Trunk provides lists of users who have volunteered for this, sorted into topic categories like 'vegan' or 'furry' or 'horror':
https://communitywiki.org/trunk