Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 95

@incognitoburrito BTW that's one of the reasons net culture greyhairs say "don't feed the trolls!". Hating on them or debating them is "negative reinforcement", it just encourages them. Note that I'm using "trolls" here in the original sense of a person making intentionally annoying shiptoasts, arguing in bad faith etc. I'm not talking about people engaged in dedicated harassment like flooding, dogpiling, doxxing etc. That's a different set of things, and requires different responses.

@incognitoburrito I want to +1 'comment on stuff you like'. There's a principle in psych called "reinforcement", that says that whatever you give attention or reactions to gets reinforced. In doesn't matter if the reactions is praise ("positive reinforcement") or call-outs ("negative reinforcement"), the behaviour gets reinforced anyway, is likely to continue. So use your time and attention thoughtfully, and direct it towards what you want to encourage, not discourage.

@abby confirmation or conformation?
@Elizafox

@emacsen @cwebber During the 4.0 drafting process, there was discussion about whether it's commercial use if an NC work was listed on a BitTorrent search site that has paid ads. From what I remember, the consensus was a "no" on that. So if you used an NC image on a web page and put a paid ad on that same web page, I don't believe that would trigger the NC clause either (again #IANAL). Using an image on a web page might trigger an ND clause though (not sure on that one).

@emacsen @cwebber #IANAL but my understanding is that "commercial use" of an NC-licensed work is limited to charging money for access to *the work itself*. For example, if you charged people to download your podcast, that would trigger the NC clause on any music you used in it, but putting a paid ad on your website would not.

@emacsen Secondly, in the drafting process for version 4.0 of the CC licenses, there was a lot of tightening up of the definitional boundaries of "commercial use". For example, 4.0 NC licenses specifically allow you to charge @cwebber for the cost of the USB stick when you give him copies of music on one. Just as you're allowed to charge a reasonable rate for printed copies of source code under GPL:
https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_interpretation

@cwebber @emacsen a couple of corrections on your latest #LibreLounge episode. The #FMA (Free Music Archive) has been saved! They found a new institutional host, a camera gear rental platform called #KitSplit:
http://freemusicarchive.org/member/cheyenne_h/blog/Free_Music_Archives_new_home_KitSplit

OTOH #OpSound.org is shutting down, which is sad.

The latest episode of the excellent #LibreLounge podcast is about #FreeCulture, the #CreativeCommons licenses, and #Remix and #Mashup culture:
https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-7-free-remix-and-youtube-culture.html

@sean if a #vegan had written Genesis, the "forbidden fruit" would be eating animals ;)

@xj9 "move fast and break stuff"! The motto of internet startups and the #BlackBlock ;)
@noorul

@LWFlouisa you've mentioned these platforms a few times. I can't get to them at the moment because the VPN is not working on my laptop. Are the comments you mention provided by paid reviewers that work for the site, or by other users? I mean, what are you really paying for? Professional commentary, or just hosting?
@z428 @pootz

@z428 yeah, I've had experiences like that, eg with teaching my parents to do stuff on computers. There's a teaching skill I acquired with practice, of constantly checking to make sure I was pitching my explanations at the right level, neither too simple (patronizing and boring), nor too complicated (confusing and overwhelming). I have to be always check my assumptions, and be ready to go back and step and explain the subsidiary steps of things I think of as single steps (eg drag that to there).

@noorul ok, so OpenBazaar isn't really useful to you. Because in that model, each of those bricks&mortar stores would run their own copy of the app, and they wouldn't need you. In the federation model I'm describing, your role would be to run a trusted instance, on behalf of whichever bricks&mortar businesses you can convince to trust your competence as a marketplace maintainer. Federating with other similar instances that you trust would help your users find more buyers, suppliers etc.

@noorul keep in mind that I haven't used GNOME 3.0 for a long time. There may now be things it does I don't know about. I started using PCs with Windows 95/98, and I'm comfortable with a fairly simple DE along those lines, so Mate is fine for me. It's definitely worth testing Mate though, and comparing resource use on the same system, as @neoncipher has.

@z428 the #GNU Project/ #FSF vision was that learning to read and write code was the computer equivalent of mass literacy. That vision survives in things like #DougRuskoff's book 'Program or Be Programmed'. I'd love to see everyone have the opportunity to learn as least basic coding. But with so much software in our lives, even experienced engineers can't read and understand all the code in all the software they use. We are all #EndUsers of something, #UX design has to deal with that.
@alcinnz

@z428 yeah, I agree with this. I think it's a result of our history. When the GNU Project started, nobody but hackers were going to use a libre UNIX. Until people started getting the net it wasn't practical to use much third-party software, and until broadband, it wasn't practical to download an OS. Mainstream use of computers by non-geeks happened *really* fast around the early 2000s, and free code development is still catch up with the implications of non-hacker end users.
@alcinnz

@noorul on this netbook, I'm currently using Mate with Trisquel 8. It can also run the GNOME Fallback in Trisquel 7, but I doubt it would be usable with a full GNOME stack.

@noorul bloatware is software that requires more and more resources with every new version, to produce the same results. If the resource requirement don't go up, not bloatware. If the feature set increases along with the increases in resources requirements it's not bloatware. Mate does pretty much the same thing as GNOME 3.0 does, with a fraction of the resources.

@z428 fair enough. In my experience the main barrier is the aura of mystification that proprietary technology companies (of all sorts) have erected around their tech, to protect themselves from #DIY competition (eg home repairs competing with new sales). People get tricked into believing it's too complex for a non-specialist to understand (mostly it isn't), so they don't try. My #1 tactic is just encouraging people to keep trying. Also I like to use colourful analogies with everyday objects