Notices by just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info), page 49
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just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 16:24:18 EDT
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@shmibs @Moon @ademan @conti @helene They don't have to be affiliated, but once a website demonstrate the ability and willingness to curate content on other basis than simple technical merits (spam) or strict legal requirements, they are not just acting as simple conduits, they are clearly making editorial decisions. -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 15:46:55 EDT
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@shmibs @Moon @ademan @conti @helene Some of them might in practice, but on the other hand, would they win in the marketplace against a competitor that goes the first way to maintain their shield? What advantage would they gain from a) becoming less attractive to users, b) losing liability protection and have to constantly look over their shoulders? -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 15:44:56 EDT
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@shmibs @Moon @ademan @conti @helene >oh my gosh, not the "publisher / platform" thing again, please
Yes, that again. It's important.
The website can't be held accountable because of exceptions carved specifically on the basis of extending free speech. The spirit of the law as to why those exceptions were carved out is clear. -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 15:27:45 EDT
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@shmibs @ademan @Moon @conti @helene There is a distinction between "forcing them" and "not enabling them"; a company that is allowed by the government to do things others are not allowed to do (in this case, publish content that would expose, for instance, a newspaper to lawsuits) has to be held to a higher standard. -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 15:16:23 EDT
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@shmibs @ademan @Moon @conti @helene >whether they're removed or not doesn't depend on them being considered legal free speech, though, because twitter is not the government and can act at its own discretion
It might not currently be the case in US laws, but if the government carves exceptions to shield companies on the basis that it serves the interest of free speech (safe haven laws), those exceptions should be revoked when those companies repeatedly undermine the principle for which they were given. I think that's a principle anyone reasonable would agree to, provided we're unlikely to get people to agree the legal system should be entirely dismantled? -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 14:54:23 EDT
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@Mitsu Yeeeeeees :blobowoevil: -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 14:50:33 EDT
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@Mitsu @ink8 Come to la what? La plage? La maison? -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 14:47:17 EDT
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@lain @Moon @conti Yes, I'm sure there are many people willing to die on that hill; I might be willing too as well. It's just that there are so many other hills that are much easier to take and that are just as important, that I don't think fighting for this one first is a strategically sound idea for anyone. -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 14:38:20 EDT
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@Moon @conti Like, I think even the most die-hard free speech advocate would agree that we can wait to have the discussion on whether death threats should be allowed until after merely unpopular political speech is no longer being censored on the grounds of being "misinformation". -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 14:36:10 EDT
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@Moon @conti They think they're being clever and that if they get their posts removed or account banned they can say "See how hypocritical these free speech people are!"
Except what people are complaining about Twitter hiding, removing or banning for years is, for the most part, not already illegal personally targeted death threats. While many would argue these should be allowed, it's not even close to being the first hill people would propose to die on. -
Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 13:59:42 EDT
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just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 13:54:24 EDT
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@lain @Hyolobrika @Moon @deutrino @dielan I had this discussion with friends recently, my take was that when information is not scarce, where art can be easily reproduced and enjoyed by anyone without paying, what people are actually buying when they buy from legal/legit/authorized is a link or relationship between them and the author. It's what makes a genuine painting more valuable than a reproduction. With art NFT, all of this is distilled into simple transferrable token. -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 13:32:40 EDT
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@Mitsu We'll see about that! -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 13:31:51 EDT
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@Mitsu Yes, I like it! -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 13:29:54 EDT
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@Mitsu Wow, like me! -
just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 11:38:42 EDT
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@ciel The distinction between the two is whether the basis of the new ideas is entirely based on an appeal to authority and not actual arguments. "Believe this, now", as opposed to "Here is why this is correct". You see it everywhere in the media "Scientists say this" or "Experts say this" with no discussion anywhere in the article of the boundaries or the context; why we should believe these experts and not the ones (there always are) that declare the opposite, what are the limits of the studies that led them to this, etc... -
Bunnybot 🐇 (bunposting@botsin.space)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 11:02:16 EDT
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RT @leggyre@twitter.com https://twitter.com/leggyre/status/1519127374524260352: event i witnessed today
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yellow catboy aety :bun: (aetios@kawen.space)'s status on Saturday, 21-Nov-2020 13:03:32 EST
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please boost/repeat this for no particular reason