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Notices by :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site), page 149

  1. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:16:04 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
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    • null process fox
    @violet Pleroma has full-text search, but tagging is helpful for post discovery. Had Mastodon never happened, we would likely live in a world now where the fediverse had ontological tags throughout the ecosystem.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:16:04 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  2. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:09:44 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • jaff
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • sasori
    @jeff @lain max homo
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:09:44 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  3. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:08:58 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • sasori
    @lain defederate Mastodon today
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:08:58 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  4. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:07:18 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • jaff
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @jeff pleroma-tan is not to be lewded
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:07:18 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  5. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:01:17 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
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    • Mikael :mlm_vampfox: :Mlm_vamp_enby_crossbow:​ :mlm_vamp_autism_pride:​
    @FirstProgenitor

    since you intend to subpost me (and somebody boosted it) i feel the need to provide an informative reply.

    - The "foundation of the fediverse" is ActivityStreams 2.0.

    - ActivityStreams 2.0 specifies the use of ontological tags for the purpose of content filtering.

    - The Mastodon CW system does not use ontological tags, but instead abuses the `summary` field on messages.

    - Mastodon's developer was not in favor of CWs, CWs landed in Mastodon as "spoiler alerts" and this is reflected in the Mastodon API where CWs are referred to as spoiler_text.

    - Using ontological tags for filtering would allow the end user to decide for themselves what content they should see or not see, while encouraging creators to tag their posts by design as they help to improve reach and discoverability, not just improved curation.

    - I actually support authoring posts with as much tagging as is practical, but only if the experience is frictionless. Mastodon's CW system, due to political compromise, is worst of all possible worlds: high friction for both authors and consumers with little control given to neither.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 18:01:17 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  6. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:49:31 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • The research fairy 😷 πŸ§šβ€β™‚οΈ 🌈
    • Laurelai Bailey
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
    @lanodan @Laurelai @bgcarlisle

    that reminds me, i need to get off my butt at some point and review the Pleroma manual
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:49:31 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  7. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:49:00 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @a7

    oh, okay
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:49:00 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  8. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:47:39 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    in reply to
    • The research fairy 😷 πŸ§šβ€β™‚οΈ 🌈
    • Laurelai Bailey
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @Laurelai @bgcarlisle

    it's as if bad documentation were a UNIX meme or something
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:47:39 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  9. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:46:34 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • The research fairy 😷 πŸ§šβ€β™‚οΈ 🌈
    • Laurelai Bailey
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @Laurelai @bgcarlisle

    frequently people tell me "oh, read the man page"

    and so i do:

    $ man somesoftware
    No manual page found for "somesoftware"
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:46:34 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  10. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:43:20 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • The research fairy 😷 πŸ§šβ€β™‚οΈ 🌈
    • Laurelai Bailey
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:

    @Laurelai @bgcarlisle

    i don’t know, i haven’t ever looked at the docs, but lets be real, with the exception of mastodon (Gargron is a technical writer at heart), most fedi software has crap docs ;)

    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:43:20 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  11. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:38:51 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • gentoo 34 DSA Anyder
    • 0x31 πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈπŸ’›
    • (β—•β€Ώβ€Ώβ—•) zoe!?!
    • Mal, Ardbert Appreciator

    @mal @anna @one @zoe

    right, so, basically, what happened was:

    • Gargron thought CWs were pointless

    • Trev sold Gargron on something resembling CWs by referring to them as β€œspoiler alerts”, this is why the Mastodon API still refers to them as spoiler_text

    • basically no iteration on CWs has happened since

    meanwhile, Qvitter and Pleroma FE were working on filters using ontological tagging (which would have notably worked without any need for modifications to OStatus)

    and for completeness, lets discuss the other fediverse players:

    Pleroma eventually added support for Mastodon-style CWs (we call them Subjects as the AP spec intends, but optionally do the collapse) in early 2018.

    GNU Social (and Qvitter) still do not support CWs.

    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:38:51 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  12. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:33:02 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • The research fairy 😷 πŸ§šβ€β™‚οΈ 🌈
    • Laurelai Bailey
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:

    @bgcarlisle @Laurelai

    it’s easy. should i write a blog about it?

    basically you just do:

    git remote set-url origin https://github.com/glitch-soc/mastodongit pull --rebase

    then you just update as you normally would (rails db:migrate, etc)

    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:33:02 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  13. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:26:29 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • Karen
    @sivy @Pixley yes, it's technically already possible in Pleroma. i have a custom filter module running on pleroma.site that rejects posts with links from accounts that have never had any other post observed by our instance, for example. helps tons with spam.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:26:29 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  14. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:13:34 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • gentoo 34 DSA Anyder
    • 0x31 πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈπŸ’›
    • (β—•β€Ώβ€Ώβ—•) zoe!?!
    • Mal, Ardbert Appreciator
    @mal @anna @one @zoe

    this was very early in Mastodon development, but the "CW as message subject" verses "ontological tagging" argument has been ongoing since 2016. i remember it distinctly from when i was still using GNU Social.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 17:13:34 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  15. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:59:43 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • volcel thotiana
    @witchy @Dielan

    except that isn't true.

    here is what actually happens:

    1. you write posts.

    2. you address those posts to `as:Public` (Public or Unlisted scope)

    3. object fetches of `as:Public` labelled posts in activitypub have no authorization requirement.

    4. because of this, when threads get reconstructed, your instance is willingly giving the instances you blocked, your posts.

    5. because of this, your instance block is "bypassed."

    instance blocking, when it refers to `as:Public` labelled posts, is only for inbound content. because of the semantics of `as:Public` posts, there is no possible way to stop unauthorized instances from fetching them, as there is no authorization step in fetching `as:Public` objects. in fact, authorization in activitypub at all is left unspecified.

    my blog discusses that issue and more issues where ActivityPub performs in ways that are unexpected.

    https://blog.dereferenced.org/activitypub-the-present-state-or-why-saving-the-worse-is-better-virus-is

    this will eventually be solved with OCAP, which there are a few proposals that are moving toward singularity. of course, that requires big elephant to actually implement them. however, OCAP is the centerpiece of the next revision to ActivityPub, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:59:43 EDT from pleroma.site permalink

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      ActivityPub: the present state, or why saving the 'worse is better' virus is both possible and important
      from kaniini's blog!
      This is the second article in a series that will be a fairly critical review of ActivityPub from a trust & safety perspective. Stay tun...
  16. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:44:28 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    in reply to
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • gentoo 34 DSA Anyder
    • volcel thotiana
    @witchy @anna

    and when you imply Pleroma is morally defective, you empower the people shitting on your friends by legitimizing their view with your own social capital.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:44:28 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  17. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:43:14 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • gentoo 34 DSA Anyder
    • volcel thotiana
    @witchy @anna

    I did read what you said, and the problem is with the people shitting on your friends, not Pleroma and not your friends.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:43:14 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  18. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:40:34 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    in reply to
    • ZK-Class Reality Failure Event πŸ“
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @monorail and so i was implying that your poll was rigged, since it only has 1 option ;)
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:40:34 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  19. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:40:14 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • ZK-Class Reality Failure Event πŸ“
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @monorail oh, right, Canada never had diebold election machines.

    basically Diebold Election Systems is a company which made polling machines that were trivial to compromise, and many people have said that various contests using Diebold machines were rigged.
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:40:14 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
  20. :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: (kaniini@pleroma.site)'s status on Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:37:19 EDT :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    • ZK-Class Reality Failure Event πŸ“
    • :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy: :abunhdhop: :abunhd: :abunhdhappyhop: :abunhdhappy:
    @monorail polling by diebold?
    In conversation Friday, 14-Jun-2019 16:37:19 EDT from pleroma.site permalink
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