Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 143

@xj9 last time I looked at this it was barely a replacement for Gogs/ Gitea, let alone GH/ Gitlab. Has it evolved since then? Can I use all its functions with a web browser, or do I have to a client that depends on the gaping security wound that is Nodejs?
@alcinnz @Michcioperz @Wolf480pl

@sir I started off really wanting to support your sr.ht project, and learn from your obviously extensive technical experience. But now, I'm really looking forward to the blog post where you cry into your coffee about how everyone is using one of a growing number of web forges connected with #ForgeFed, and nobody cares about your ubergeeks-only vanity project. Really can't wait.
@Wolf480pl

@sir you know who makes bigger salaries than engineers? Everyone in the upper management of tech companies. Guess they must do more important work on software than engineers then, yes? That's logical isn't it?
@Wolf480pl

@jeffalyanak in that case, quiet in the cheap seats. I'm trying to turn a potentially useful piece of non-free software into free code. Unless your comment helps achieve that, I don't need to see it.

@sir
a minor part of what makes them useful TO YOU, you mean.
@Wolf480pl

@jeffalyanak if you think you can do a better job, well... pull requests welcome :-P

@jeffalyanak #IANAL but my understanding is that if a project is dual-licensed, you can use it under the terms of either license. Eg you can use text from Wikipedia under either #CC BY-SA or GNU FDL.

@Wolf480pl things like making it stupidly easy for non-geeks to file bug reports, and tightly integrating the issues tracker with the code repos, are a major part of what makes GH, GitLab etc useful. A federated system that doesn't do this is simply *not* a GH replacement, useful as it may be to a tiny minority of back-end engineers @alcinnz@floss.socia @sir

@sir spoken like a true engineer :-P @alcinnz

BTW I've been in situations where folks that I worked with on activist tech projects were arrested in "anti-terrorism" laws raids, although not in relation to those projects (at least not directly ...). Our people were being held indefinitely while the Attorney-General decided whether they could be charged as terrorists or not.
https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/operation-8-2011

It was fucking terrifying. None of knew if we might be next. Only some incredibly stubborn solidarity work got us through:
@mike @bjoern @aral

@adfeno also, why start a new repo-hosting packages when there are already multiple free code options; #GitLab, #Gogs, #Gittea, #Phabricator, and whatever #Savannah runs on? #WhyReinventTheWheel
@teslas_moustache

@adfeno @teslas_moustache why isn't #Kallithea using #AGPL? Straight #GPL seems like a strange choice for a server-side package.

@adfeno why is #Kallithea using #AGPL? It is a server-side package, isn't it? Straight #GPL seems like a strange choice.

@teslas_moustache Drew has some legitimate points to make about the ways email protocols could be used as part of a federated GH replacement, but he has the typical older-than-oldschool #UNIX #greyhair attitude that everyone who doesn't learn to do everything on the command line is wasting computer resources.
@adfeno

@teslas_moustache have you looked into #ForgeFed? That's exactly what they are working on, but in the form of a set of AP extensions that existing packages like #GitLab, #Phabricator etc could implement, so their instances can all become part of a single federated GH replacement.
https://github.com/forgefed/forgefed@adfeno@ecodigital.social

@mike_hales sorry if you've already said, but are you using a mobile or a laptop?

@z428 @bjoern yes, when I see people like #YashaLevine attacking the EFF in left-wing publications like the #Baffler, and claiming that tech corporation are the real threat to our privacy (which they can be), and governments are its saviours (which is so obviously bullshit), I get very suspicious:
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/all-effd-up-levine

@sullybiker Don't get me wrong, there's definitely fake news around. But who was it told us the fake news that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Was that social media and independent websites (of the right of the left), or was it the corporate media (whether state-owned or investor-owned, corporate is as corporate does).

@sullybiker it's a fantastic piece of double-bluff. By attacking the corporate media, the Orange Menace has manipulated the liberal left into sticking up for it. He has them leaping to the defence of freedom of the press (as we all should), but at the same time, enthusiastically braying for the suppression of the non-corporate free press, and people's right to engage in political speech online, in the name of defending democracy from "fake news"(#DoubleThink much?).

@mike
> I'm building crypto tools that I can't break.

That's great, and I totally support people doing that. It's part of the solution. But what do you do when the Australian government charges you under anti-terrorism laws for refusing to back door the software you're developing with the territory they claim jurisdiction over? Technical solutions will no survive without political organizing to support them.
@bjoern @aral