@jessmahler there are two problems though. One, it's not immediately obvious to users that they can publish followers-only, and what the implications are if they don't. Arguably, that ought to be the default, so users have to opt-in to making public posts on the web (either per-post or changing the default on their account). The second one is other fediverse apps not understanding and respecting Mastodon's followers-only setting. This needs to be addressed at a protocol level. (2/2)
@jessmahler fair enough. But chatting with people by making public posts on the fediverse is like having an in-person chat while both of you are livestreaming your part of the conversation to the public internet. I'm not making value judgements about whether that *should* be the case, it's just the reality of how it *is*. What you want is a way to post to the fediverse *without* publishing on the web. That definitely ought to be an option and on Mastodon it is - posting followers-only. (1/2)
@selea yes, I did that, but what is it in those dig results that tells me that? Or do I need to search those IP addresses using one of those other tools you mention to get that information? Again ELI5! ;)
@teaneedz To understand why that's not really how algorithms work, try replacing the word" algorithm" in your post with "math". For a start, they are usually much more general purpose, and even when they designed for a specific purpose, that doesn't mean they can't be reused for something totally different. It's at the point of *implementation* where ethical considerations can kick in, not pure research or technical tinkering to see what's possible. @dredmorbius
@wion different strokes for different folks, of course. I guess it's a question of what we use the fediverse *for*. For me, it's a knowledge sharing and community organizing space, kind of like a giant mailing list with really good filters, so I see a value in archiving. For those who just use it as a giant chat room, I can totally see why archiving would seem redundant, even bothersome ;)
@xurizaemon good questions. One crucial difference, for my purposes, between being hosted by GitLab Inc. (or whatever they're called) and anyone else is that federation decisions (whether to federate and if so, with who?) are made by someone other than GitLab Inc. I presume gitlabhost.com just pop out a GL instance in a container, so those decisions would be made by the group using it, not the hosting company. Not the case if it's just a custom domain posting to a GitLab.com project.
@lj_writes#KenWilber also uses demons as a metaphor for fragmented shards of self, trapped at earlier stages of development than where most of the self is currently at. His idea is that they act out in "not me" ways, and that accepting and reintegrating them not only solves that, but removes obstacles to further psycho-spiritual development. He probably borrowed these ideas from both Jungians and Buddhists ;) @scarlettablack
@lj_writes interesting that you mention demons. I read one book on a buddhist practice of doing shadow work by role-playing conversations with demons, finding out what they need, what they're trying to do, what suppressed aspect of self they represent. I intuitively stumbled on a similar practice years before, when I decided to give my anger a name and hold negotiations with "him". Before that, my anger was definitely "not me". @scarlettablack
@scarlettablack@lj_writes Both Jungian and Buddhist practice have techniques for "eating the shadow", releasing the trapped energies it represents, and allowing the person to accept everything their "self" really includes right now. This then allows them to transform aspects of their self that could lead them into bad places, rather than denying and reacting to them, and choose their actions more consciously.
@scarlettablack@lj_writes another psychological principle that might be relevant here is the shadow self. Whatever we believe is "not me", either because it clashes with our self-image or with what culture tells us is allowed, is pushed into the shadow. We project it onto others, and it leaks into our words and actions in ways we're not aware of (at the time). I wonder if this could be leading to these people saying their actions are "not me"?
@scarlettablack Psychology has consistently found that people are above all situational, so maybe if the idea of "who I am" is to be useful it needs to come with a situational qualifier. "I am/was the kind of person who spray-paints hate in public WHEN I let peer pressure get the better of my principles." The part that comes after the "when" is something they can learn from. It's certainly more honest and helpful than just "That's not me!"
tfw somebody says "sure, electron is bloated, but everything is bloated" -- like, just because a problem is already horrible doesn't make it OK to make it worse\!
@selea so if I dig gitlab.e.foundation and gitlab.com and get different IP addresses, does that mean they are not hosted by Gitlab.com? How do I know? Can't IP addresses be redirected like domain names can?