Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 92

@LWFlouisa that's one of the grossest things I've ever heard! What's the marketing slogan "a heart attack in a bar!" ;P
@noorul

@emacsen
> QCO's been in a hibernation for a while

Why's that? FWIW I feel like there's been a general contraction of interest in non-software #commons work over the last 5 years or so. I know my own passions have shifted to things like federated web platforms, and firefighting on the more general political front. I can only imagine what things look like from a US POV.
@cwebber

@InternetKevin there's a paradox in this, the more of us vote with our feet, and move to more user-respecting online platforms (like the #fediverse), the more that conversations on the #DataFarms will give the impression that nobody cares. Even to the degree that we keep using datafarms to try to balance the debate, like digital bodhisattvas, the algorithms can just disappear anything critical we say. This is part of the problem and the anti-democratic danger of those platforms.
@nolan

@0x1C3B00DA I've just been learning more about #Feneas (Federated Network Association) today. I really like the vision by @cj to use #ActivityPub to create a federated protocol forge for specifying AP extensions. It's a genius solution, and a brilliant example of #dogfooding to boot ;)
https://cjslep.com/c/blog/an-activitypub-philosophy
@bob

@emacsen I've been involved in CC stuff since my days with #Indymedia in the early 2000s. I've been looking at it from the POV of a hobby musician and live music fan, with lots of friends who are poor musicians (and photographers and film-makers etc). It seems to me there's a suite of tools that need to come together to make a #FreeCulture economy work. This including licenses, software, #BuskWare platforms (I've thought about crypto and #GNU #Taler) etc. The C-E Mark is part of it.
@cwebber

@kensanata fair enough :)
@eloisa @lightone @carbontwelve @Thepunkgeek @ChangelingRandy

@alana thanks :) The whole idea of things like #CrisisCommons are to create an institutional continuity, so the relationships and tools that are developed dealing with one crisis don't have to be reinvented from scratch in the next emergency. In #NZ we have a volunteer-run org called #CivilDefence who train people for disaster relief operations, and general preparedness.

@LWFlouisa so the comments are just from other users? Not part of the service you pay for? In which case you take your chances, just like to do on a subreddit, or the fediverse, or anywhere else you invite user comments. So I guess the trick is to keep shopping around for the platforms that happen to have attracted the most thoughtful and generous users at any given time ;)

@noorul I think you missed my point. The whole idea of OpenBazaar is that there are no middlemen providing third-party services. Each seller runs the P2P software on their own home/business PC, selling directly to buyers. There's no demand for an online shopping platform or ecommerce mobile app provided by you, because that's exactly what OpenBazaar is. For you to have a role as a service provider, you need federated software, not P2P.

@noorul many of these smaller marketplaces still exist eg #MightyApe in Aotearoa (NZ) and #FishPond in the UK, but the #PlatformMonopoly dynamic means they struggle for oxygen in the face of massive players like #Amazon and #Ebay. As with the #fediverse, federating multiple independent marketplaces together, allows them to combine their #NetworkEffect, and compete cooperatively (if that makes sense ;)
@fitheach

@RandomDamage if you mean #crowdfunding isn't magic pixie dust, we agree on that. I think the solution is much more ambitious. See:
https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/101421022317739232

@brainblasted @noorul glad to hear it's finally headed back in the right direction. But you have to acknowledge that the minimum specs for GNOME have increased significantly since a decade ago. There are very few #FreeCode DEs that require more resources to run (AFAIK only #KDE and maybe some #Unity forks).

@alana that's a great point. One place to research might be groups who coordinated grassroots responses natural disasters like Katrina (#CommonGround collective) or Sandy (#OccupySandy). I don't know if the #CrisisCamp/ #CrisisCommons project is still alive, but that could be another thread to tug on. Disaster response projects like #Ushahidi, #Sahana etc too. Coordination in emergencies is *really* tricky, and depends a lot on pre-existing relationships.

@z428 But I agree there is a generational aspect to it. I don't expect my mother to ever learn to code, nor most of her generation. My Dad learned some BASIC in the 1980s though, as a keen hobbyist, which is how I first got interested. If I hadn't had no access to computers for a few years after high school, and kept on with programming, my life could have been totally different. A lot of our generation won't either. But it took centuries for reading and writing to become common.
@alcinnz

@z428 yeah I'm more interested in learning #devOps / #userOps skills than extending my coding skills in an engineering direction. I think we need far more server farmers than we need engineers. But even doing server farming requires at least a basic knowledge of #Bash, and probably always will. Designing good UI needs coding too (HTML/CSS is code!). Coding has many uses other than back-end software engineering.
@alcinnz

@clacke I like the idea that if corporate persons are convicted of having done anything that would get a natural person life imprisonment (or death penalty), the business should be put into receivership, while negotiations begin with workers, customers, and suppliers about who wants to take it over as a democratic cooperative. Assuming there's still a business when the bad behaviour they were convicted for stops, that is.

@clacke I like the idea that if corporate persons are convicted of having done anything that would get a natural person life imprisonment (or death penalty), the business should be put into receivership, while negotiations begin with workers, customers, and suppliers about who wants to take it over as a democratic cooperative. Assuming there's still a business when the bad behaviour they were convicted before stops, that is.

@clacke
> I'm not sure if it means anything important.

If it means that (most) states are just a special type of corporation - and that's definitely how #SnapperJohn and the #NZ #National party saw the state - that has disturbing implications for democracy. Unless we take it as a cue to start pushing for the democratization of corporations into #cooperatives owned by their workers/ customers/ suppliers/ a combination.

@clacke there was a political party in #NZ in the 1980s called #SocialCredit (I know some former members), whose policy was to have 2 currencies, an internationally traded one for buying anything (including imported stuff), and a government issued one that could only be used to buy local services and domestically produced stuff, and pay taxes. There was a #NZGreens candidate who proposed a similar local currency for a city to have a local currency.