Notices by Mayel - ghost account (mayel@social.coop), page 20
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Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 15:47:06 EST 
Mayel
@gordon @tcit
Cool idea! Yeah webtorrent would work, check out how https://instant.io/ allows you to preview docs like PDFs -
gordon (gordon@cybre.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 09:53:41 EST 
gordon
Idea: a federated electronic library, where you upload your ebooks, and give access to others in the Fediverse. How could it work for actual book access? It shouldn’t be embedded in AP objects, should it be just hard-to-guess links? Torrent, like Peertube? How would it integrate with other more generic AP software (Pleroma, Masto)?
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Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 11:40:52 EST
Mayel
@puck I can't seem to see any content at that URL... curious what would be causing an incompatibility as well, so we can fix it. -
Platinum ship of fools (conatus@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 10:13:20 EST 
Platinum ship of fools
@mayel This is a really clever way of helping people, thanks for sharing. I think "choose your own adventure" type tutorials are underutilized as a teaching tool.
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Geoff #PID<0.57.0> (coolerranch@cybre.space)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2018 10:40:42 EDT 
Geoff #PID<0.57.0>
"""
LISP has jokingly been described as “the most intelligent way to misuse a computer”. I think that description a great compliment because it transmits the full flavour of liberation: it has assisted a number of our most gifted fellow humans in thinking previously impossible thoughts.
"""- Edsger Dijkstra, The Humble Programmer
https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD03xx/EWD340.html
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Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 08:55:25 EST
Mayel
@dgold @cooler_ranch
here's what I use to keep my mac up to date (and cleanup old packages at the same time): https://gitlab.com/snippets/1751610 -
Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 08:42:27 EST
Mayel
@strypey @bob @wilbr @adfeno
what's the project?
another approach would be http://ora.network/ -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 00:31:30 EST 
Strypey
@adfeno @wilbr @bob Taler is great, and I'd love to see credit unions and other financial coops working with them to get some production instances up and running. But it's just a payment processing system. Funding free code development is well outside the scope of their work.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 19-Nov-2018 10:50:58 EST
Strypey
@wilbr @bob a friend is working on a system for funding public software development where (from memory) users will be able to choose how much to donate, and list the software and services they know they are using. Algorithms then use a database of dependencies to work out how to divide up their donations between all the projects they use (directly and indirectly), and send batches of donations to projects on a regular basis (eg weekly or monthly).
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Lynn Foster (lynn@lynn.mikorizal.org)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 06:53:48 EST 
Lynn Foster
@mayel
Love most of what you posted Mayel!
It is a challenge to use AP and still move to agent-centric communications in the fediverse. But I think it is important to do a minimum straight-up AP graphql api for the #commonspub C2S interface, so I'd like to try to get it to all mesh happily.
>"- Users can have several Actors. Actors can have relationships (and capabilities /permission) with each other. "
This is the one that I find possibly problematic. I think the goal should be for each person to have one Person actor for themselves, period. A Person can have many User (credentials) over time and for different methods of credentialing.
At the same time, people like to segregate the parts of their lives - so we would need a way to do that without creating more Persons. Adding something like Profile or Persona could solve that. Also, as Groups become supported and Persons can join Groups, that will become another way to scope conversations.
Here is a quick sketch of something that might work without changing AP, just extending it. Profile is a new actor type. A Person can have many Users. A Person can have many Profiles. Feedback welcome!
@bhaugen
@ivan
@alexcastano
@cwebber
@AceNovo
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Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 08:13:55 EST
Mayel
@lynn
@bhaugen @ivan @alexcastano @cwebber @AceNovo @Gargron
I think that's the key, our backend will make that possible, but it doesn't mean that every (or any) app needs to make it available -
Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 03:43:18 EST
Mayel
@AceNovo @cwebber
I'm trying to mirror the C2S spec in GraphQL as much as possible. It's work in progress, but will send you a link later. -
Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 02:42:01 EST
Mayel
Forgot to @ you folks, always keen for feedback!
@AceNovo @Gargron
@cwebber
@alexcastano
@lynnfoster
@bhaugen
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Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 02:33:56 EST
Mayel
I agree with @Gargron about ActivityPub Client-to-Server API putting a lot of work onto the front-end, but at the same time that would allow more functionality (especially to do with supporting other types of activities and objects) and innovation to be focused on the client side, which would make identity a bit less messy (people could follow me once and get my toots, video, photos, etc, and vice versa, I could have one unified timeline mixing different kinds of content). The answer to "what's a good alternative to Facebook" isn't one platform like Hubzilla, it's an ecosystem of truly interoperable apps. We've got the right tools, we just need to tie them together in useful and non-competitive ways.
A few of us are working on adapting the Client to Server API into a GraphQL schema, which I think will provide the best of both worlds, lots of flexibility for client apps while being easy to implement as the server can still to most of the ActivityPub/ActivityStreams heavy lifting.
Some of our immediate goals for #CommonsPub include:
- Federation that works for any type of activity, object, and field (including extensions). Side effects could be controlled by a sort of plug-in system similar to WordPress (including just bridging to an existing non-Elixir app's API). #MoodleNet will be a plug-in that extends #CommonsPub.
- GraphQL as the primary client API, with some generic very flexible and powerful (but complex) endpoints, and plug-ins being able to add endpoints to make things easier for their specific use case or client app.
- Support for Groups.
- Users can have several Actors. Actors can have relationships (and capabilities /permission) with each other.
- More kinds of Actors, including Group and Organization.
Some goals we don't have right now (put would accept merge requests for) :
- ActivityPub C2S API
- Mastodon API
- A server-powered no-JavaScript-needed basic HTML client, extensible by plugins -
Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2018 01:56:29 EST
Mayel
@wakest
@rbe_expert
One of the goals of https://gitlab.com/OpenCoop/CommonsPub/Server (still in development) is making projects like that much easier, to the point where it may mean just creating or adapting a front-end app -
Mayel (mayel@pub.mayel.space)'s status on Monday, 19-Nov-2018 14:06:00 EST
Mayel
Hey @kaniini it's a bit all over the place right now, but we're hacking on it intensely this week (including the GraphQL API and starting to hook up MoodleNet's front-end) so should have something partially functional afterwards. Our launch date is somewhere in January though. -
switching.social (switchingsocial@mastodon.at)'s status on Saturday, 17-Nov-2018 08:29:02 EST 
switching.social
#ActivityPubForWordPress are plugins for WordPress sites that add support for the ActivityPub standard.
This means people can follow the WordPress site from ActivityPub-powered services such as Mastodon etc.
There are a couple of such plugins right now:
"ActivityPub" by @pfefferle
https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/"PteroType" by @jdormit https://wordpress.org/plugins/pterotype/
https://getpterotype.com/ -
ḑàt҉a͝r̶òt̸ (deletionism@mastodon.technology)'s status on Friday, 16-Nov-2018 12:48:09 EST 
ḑàt҉a͝r̶òt̸
@drumsetmonkey Firefox is Fennec Browser on F-droid, Youtube client is NewPipe or Skytube, Whatsapp isn't on F-droid but Telegram is, for a basic email client you can use K-9 Mail. For Twitter you can use SlimSocial, Twitlatte or Twidere. For Android Keyboard or G-Board I use Simple Keyboard.
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Edurne (gin@pub.emo.world)'s status on Saturday, 17-Nov-2018 07:47:39 EST
Edurne
Spent the last three days reading Voltarine De Cleyre and I'm in love.
"It is not violence the ruling classes object to; for they themselves rule by violence, and take with the strong hand at every door. It is the social change they fear, the equalization of men ... What! These creatures who drill men in the science of killing, who put guns and clubs in hands they train to shoot and strike, who hail with delight the latest inventions in explosives, who exult in the machine that can kill the most with the least expenditure of energy, who declare a war of extermination upon people who do not want their civilization, who ravish, and burn, and garrote and guillotine, and hang, and electrocute, they have the impertinence to talk about the unrighteousness of force!" -
@h (h@sunbeam.city)'s status on Saturday, 17-Nov-2018 06:15:08 EST 
@h
@strypey Apart from Kevin"s work, I'd recommend taking a look at @Gin 's initial work (beyond labels and branding) on the ways that genuinely progressive organisations aware of the limitations of capital can tell who are compatible organisations to cooperate with. (And which aren't) Hopefully a first deliverable of many.
http://emo.world/2018/09/27/no-profit-no-hierarchy-a-comparative-study-of-the-lower-left/
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