Folks from #SouthAfrica in the #fediverse
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Falgn0n The Wizard 🔮 (falgn0n@opensocial.africa)'s status on Friday, 31-Aug-2018 04:42:50 EDT 
Falgn0n The Wizard 🔮
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dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-Aug-2018 01:30:07 EDT 
dansup
You can mute/block profiles on pixelfed now, not satisfied until I finish the redis implementation. #fediverse
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theru (theru@pleroma-in.ouda.space)'s status on Friday, 31-Aug-2018 01:09:18 EDT 
theru
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Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 20:00:37 EDT 
Tobias Dausend
Just an interesting lecture about the last eclat regarding Wil Wheaton here in the #Fediverse. That might be not the only source, but for the time on reading was interesting with information. So for everyone thinking this case is clear and there was just a mob ruling here onto the #Fediverse. Please keep in mind that there are more sides active. And when I read about hate-movements like Gamergate, persons like Alex Jones and websites like "Occidental Dissent" full with antisemitism and racism I think the problem is quite bigger than "We have to watch this dangerous trend!". But here is the article I'm talking about: https://medium.com/@AmberEnderton/wil-wheaton-has-a-listening-problem-accdf6277b88
And here are more information about "Occidental Dissent": https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Occidental_Dissent
Last one is a comment direct showing antisemitism. But hey, details. Better to throw out just a short comment! No this can't be short at all, people. #Mastodon https://gnusocial.federated-networks.org/attachment/14186 -
Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 15:40:25 EDT
Tobias Dausend
Heda, werte CDU in Sachsen-Anhalt: Ihr habt aber schon mitbekommen mit wem ihr da konkret zusammenarbeiten möchtet? Der Feind meines Feindes ist mein Freund, oder was wird das jetzt? Und noch mehr "rechts"? Immer weiter und weiter, bis wir dann eine blau-schwarze (eigentlich komplett braune) Regierung haben, oder was soll das Ganze werden?
Ach wisst ihr was? Ihr seid gegen LINKS? Schönes "Feindbild" und hier wird derweil - auch im #Fediverse - immer wieder von Toleranz gesprochen. Toleranz von Intoleranz ist ein fehlgeschlagenes Konzept. Und gegen jedweden "Extremismus" wird wirklich irgendwann zu meinem Lieblings-Schwachsinn der jeweilig aktuellen Stunde / Minute oder auch Tages. Es NERVT und ist beängstigend wie leichtfertig hier freiheitliche Grundrechte einfach so zum braunen Toilettenfenster hinaus geworfen werden. #Fuck-Off-Hufeisen
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/sachsen-anhalt-gemeinsam-gegen-links-1.4109620 -
Hypolite Petovan (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 13:22:58 EDT 
Hypolite Petovan
@🛫 Brad Koehn 🛬 Of course not. In real life, you usually are physically distant from most people who would mean you harm. Social networking brings everyone together in a single point in space, for better and for worse.
For example bullying has been more prevalent thanks to social networks. Before them, bullying could be confined to a few public places like school, but home was a safe space. Not so much with social networks where bullying can continue after hours.
This is what I like about #Friendica, I have a very limited view of what happens in the larger #Fediverse, mostly through contacts I've myself chosen to follow, and I'm getting very little collateral posts, either because there are fewer replies (on Diaspora) or because they're are straight up absent from my node if I'm not following the account (Mastodon). -
Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 13:20:46 EDT
Tobias Dausend
@witti @nipos @freemo @rnitsch By the way: You think it's really fitting to get onto the "Wil Wheaton"-discussion, again just generalizing that within the #Fediverse hateful mobs are active? And what about the mob being active just because addressing destructive comparisons and "alternative facts" created noting #Chemnitz and what Mr. Gauland said? We've got a bunch of problems ON-LINE and OFF-LINE. As noted yesterday! But for real: I have enough said until now because I want concentrate on more positive things instead walking on a vicious circle again and again. Perhaps you try it? Post some positive thoughts instead making conservatism and hypothesis to your timeline or telling us how wrong the government in Berlin is, again and again. Making out for YOU as a person and not YOU as some account spreading more hate-mongering. Just another advice. Out here for now, just remember the questions! ;-) -
Hypolite Petovan (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 12:26:45 EDT
Hypolite Petovan
My personal opinion Mastodon vs Wil Wheaton
The facts I know about:- Wil Wheaton (of Star Trek and The Big Bang Theory fame) signed up on mastodon.cloud.
- His account has been massively reported to the instance admin.
- Someone on the mastodon.cloud moderation team acted on those reports and banned him from this instance.
- He published a blog post about it.
This often begs the question if #Mastodon should be for everyone. To my understanding it was initially created to alleviate Twitter's shortcomings, like central governance, leniency towards celebrities, and general inaction or outright ostracism towards marginalized groups. @Gargron himself deplored the ban, saying it was "absolutely not the right kind of community atmosphere." https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/100636124129576701, but isn't welcoming everyone going to reproduce the same systemic inequalities as in other public networks?
He also reminded mastodon.social users that "Dogpiling and harassment are off-limits no matter how justified you think you are. The rules are for everyone." https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/100635910928077487, in reply to which people were quick to remind him that the same rules were seemingly enforced differently depending on the profile of the victim. Again, there's a difficult question: should queer people be held to a higher standard in a space that was purposefully designed for them?
I personally don't think so. Mastodon is the only public social network I know where queer pressure can drive a famous white man off it. And it turns out that in spaces where marginalized people hold any power, they can be as shitty as white cis dudes in most other spaces. While this can seem disheartening, it also means that shittiness isn't correlated with any inherent feature of the individual, only their relative position in the power hierarchy of the space they're in. Mob rule still prevails, it just isn't the mob we're used to in this case. To borrow the words of walruslifestyle https://octodon.social/@walruslifestyle/100639558363369729:funny how certain kinds of people (...) say "mob rule" without examining whether it was, instead, a large group of people who (a) are usually disempowered; (b) have a legitimate issue they are mobilizing to bring forward; and (c) choose to do so in a way that doesn't conform to privileged notions of civility
To close this, I'd like to point out that most of what happened could have been prevented by Wil Wheaton setting up his own instance, which he most certainly have the means to do, a fact that Matthew Graybosch usefully reminded me https://octodon.social/@starbreaker/100639666149820211. In the end, Wheaton chose to trust mastodon.cloud administration team like he chose to trust the #Twitter's administration team before leaving. -
Atari-Frosch (atarifrosch@social.stopwatchingus-heidelberg.de)'s status on Thursday, 30-Aug-2018 09:41:53 EDT 
Atari-Frosch
Ouch. Wil Wheaton: The world is a terrible place right now, and that’s largely because it is what we make it. – http://wilwheaton.net/2018/08/the-world-is-a-terrible-place-right-now-and-thats-largely-because-it-is-what-we-make-it/ – #Fediverse -
Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 16:44:43 EDT
Tobias Dausend
Was wohlweislich AfD-Mitglieder irgendwie nicht verstehen wollen: "Meinungsfreiheit" impliziert eben nicht das Recht über Alles und Jeden seinen Hass und seinen Zorn schütten zu können. Es gibt genau diese Grenze: Wenn ich die Rechte, Würde und Freiheit Anderer aberkenne, dann hat MEINE Freiheit einfach wie schlicht ein Ende. Und genau deswegen gibt es zwar das Recht auf "Meinungsfreiheit" aber ebenso die Pflicht gegen Hass zu intervenieren.
Irgendwie scheint das immer wieder falsch verstanden zu werden. Ich möchte auch den AfD-Mitgliedern nicht an Leib und Leben. Ich will einfach nur, dass sie verstehen wo die Grenze ist und ihren Raissmus nicht mehr abkippen, da es sonst für Andere genau um Leib und Leben geht respektive gehen wird. Und ja, das impliziert auch direkt die Meldung eines Profils hier im #Fediverse bei absoluter Uneinsichtigkeit. Die AfD als Partei ist keine Basis für irgendwas, ebenso wie die anderen rechtsextremen Hetzgruppierungen auch. Das muss und kann keine Demokratie aushalten dieses stete Zerren und Provozieren, eine sprichwörtliche Hassparade und Dehnung des Sagbaren: Alles nur Hypthese, natürlich. Und wenn Jemand seit Jahren Mitglied dieser Partei ist und PEGIDA-Aufmärsche begleitet diskutiere ich ab jetzt nicht mehr sondern melde nur noch umgehend. Kippt euren Mist am Besten nirgendwo ab! Ihr wollt nicht, dass sich etwas ändert. Ihr wollt nur wieder eure Privilegien abgesichert wissen. #Ausgehetzt -
Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 15:03:57 EDT
Tobias Dausend
@rnitsch Interesting, I come up with absolute facts about human beings and their interaction and you just marginalize my arguments being not rational even though accusations. Should I repeat what you are saying about me being not part of the first part of the second discussion? But that's already part of your concurrent posting here. I'm ideologically obsessed in your point of view and I just simply hate the AfD. Neither point one nor point two is really near to what I have written before. I don't hate the AfD but this party simply hates everyone not fitting in the german Patriot scheme. Hating foreigners and giving simple answers for complex problems as named the human interaction. You can be sure that the same scene with even the same participants would come up to a complete other result when repeated. And you ignore everything else I have written before. So I'll just repeat that for you as I'm a kind person: https://gnusocial.federated-networks.org/notice/64643
I have even addressed everything else and I have not called an "evil" member of the "evil" AfD. I'll just repeat what I've said before: "I simply ask one question: "Why?" Why being not conservative and liberal otherwise? I just noted that our political views don't fit. Clear to read for everybody here. But you have to be honest: There are enough problems regarding the AfD. Every life is limitless in value and I just have one problem: How can I help before people are being literally murdered because they have the wrong color or religion?"
But hey: I prefer thinking about ways to live with people instead counting numbers of them being some kind "useful" within statistics and how many of them could be "radical". As I've already noted before: The part of the #Fediverse able to read us here is just watching and you blame yourself with any further argument you note instead start asking questions. Because that's the point: I have asked many questions until now. You're just asking how you could get your personal "freedom of speech" alive on the instance you are resident of. Therefore @freemo said it many times before your way of discussion and argumentation seems to be destructive. Stop calling numbers and ask questions, start a real conversation. With insinuations you'll reach out the opposite. And I've just analyzed your argumentation with "argumentum ad hominem", nothing more. Must hit you very hard, but I didn't mean even that. I've just pointed out what you are doing here! That's all for now. And I'm done with arguing here: Indeed this is leading nowhere as you just do it do get not banned. Enough written from my side. -
Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 12:47:22 EDT
Tobias Dausend
@rnitsch Besides the fact that you never interacted with @nipos or me around more than one posting. So you are more focussed the whole time at the administration. Have you recognized here, that most participants here are just watching us discussing because they don't want this kind of dialog on explicit this level? Studies are one thing, but talking with people reality something more. And I had discussions with more than only one side within the years now, learned therefore different views and learned about the fact of intolerance. So do you think turkish people are happy we are talking just ABOUT them, ABOUT some studies? Besides you're using the phrase "I'm not saying" very often. So what in fact do you want to say? If you really want to break through some vicious circle, then talk with people and ask questions. Don't come up with some studies you have read and which just shows up one side of the coin. There are even more than two sides. And living active some kind of an example, not some explicit role model which everybody should use. This is the base for a multicultural, colorful society we are in and that's the main goal preventing and helping to develop. That's also the point @freemo had pointed out. The whole third part of this debate is now just about you, your view and what you think you are saying. Perhaps asking others what they have understood so far? And yes: There will be also some harsh criticism coming up! That's the #Fediverse. -
Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 08:53:12 EDT
Tobias Dausend
https://gnusocial.federated-networks.org/attachment/14024 https://gnusocial.federated-networks.org/attachment/14026 And yet another example for having a bigger discussion about integration of commercial services here within the #Fediverse. The reasoning? Had a look onto the profile of the creator behind #Pixelfed and there was a posting about the service write-as. But what is this service? There is even a video shared on #PeerTube about it.
After a little research including the repositories on #Github ( to be found here: https://github.com/writeas ) I had the conclusion: No server itself possible for hosting purpose, but some clients available. Therefore "Open-Source" but also "Freemium". And afterwards support for #Mastodon sharing some postings. Mixing up different approaches here. But hey: We can share, complete irrelevant which platform. #Stop-Playing-Bullshit -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 07:40:15 EDT 
Strypey
What I want is to be able to give an email client the URL I use to login to my email service in a web browser, and my password, and for it to be able to set up IMAP, SMTP, sync my address book and any spam filtering systems, and so on, without my having to do anything else. Just like #Pinafore does for my #fediverse account. Is it really so difficult to make that happen?
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Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 06:47:22 EDT
Tobias Dausend
@paulfree14 https://gnusocial.federated-networks.org/attachment/14016 Wo wir bei dem Herrn Grell waren. Das Bildschirmfoto entstand gerade und zeigt die Kommentare unterhalb des Videos. Selbige kann man mittels invidio.us auch durchsehen. Demagogie und Apologeten für rechte Gesinnung und es wird noch weiter verbreitet hier im #Fediverse. -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 05:02:37 EDT
Strypey
@onethousandtwentyfour @dzuk
...or maybe even here, since it's good for newbies to know that Mastodon isn't their only option for interacting with the #fediverse?
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👣 ghose [:mastodon:] (xosem@mstdn.io)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Aug-2018 00:00:20 EDT ![👣 ghose [:mastodon:]](https://gs.jonkman.ca/avatar/5164-48-20191105090024.jpeg)
👣 ghose [:mastodon:]
aupa @asiermarques !! 👋 Espero estés a gusto por el #fediverse
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Tobias Dausend (throgh@gnusocial.federated-networks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Aug-2018 14:02:46 EDT
Tobias Dausend
Find ich einfach nur noch schlimm: Bildschirmfotos ohne Argumente hinterlassen, aber einen markigen Spruch direkt oberhalb. Man nannte derlei im Mittelalter auch schlicht Pranger. Es besteht darin noch ein Unterschied wenn Argumente und eine eigene Haltung dazu verfasst wird: Letztendlich geht es darum Menschenfeindlichkeit und mangelnde Empathie offenzulegen, Demagogie klar zu definieren und eben auch für Gespräche einzuladen. Gerade auch wenn die Teilnehmer hier im #Fediverse unterwegs sind.
Aber nun ja? Neuste Vorgehensweise ist derweil dann ganz einfach eine Obsession zu unterstellen. Nein, liebe Rechte und Demagogen: Das was ihr hier nachsagen möchtet gibt es nicht. Es geht darum Tendenzen offenzulegen. Und unstrittig noch dazu ist dann, dass ihr so versucht Kritiker zum Schweigen zu bringen. Niemand möchte einfach so an den Pranger gestellt und Teil eines Pamphletbriefs werden. "Argumentum ad hominem" als Misskredit und zwar für eure Gruppierung. Wollen wir das einmal mit einem Beispiel untermalen? Aber klar wollen wir das, hier direkt im #Fediverse.
Tja, Herr Nitsch: Sie verstehen offenkundig Kritik einfach nicht. Wollen wir das einmal umdrehen? Die deutsche Politik hat kein Problem damit einen Mantel des Schweigens über Repressionen zu hüllen. Genau deswegen nutze ich den Hashtag #Deutschland-du-mieses-Stück. Und das Sie sich so überhaupt nicht für einen Dialog interessiert haben am gestrigen Tage untermauert das Ganze auch noch. Im Gegenteil: Einen Pranger stellen Sie hier, wo doch offenkundig angesprochen und diskutiert werden kann. Also das wird die "neue Mentalität" hier sein? Danke für den Beweis!
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Hypolite Petovan (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2018 12:36:31 EDT
Hypolite Petovan
Decentralization bliss
I've been on the #Fediverse for almost two years now, and it still pleases me when I come across a new instance domain, whatever the software used. Keep the decentralized web blossoming, people. -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2018 11:27:50 EDT
Strypey
@conor my level of climate debate at this point is just to point people at skepticalscience.com, because I'm so bored with restating the obvious ad nauseum, but welcome to the #fediverse!
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