@KevinMarks@bhaugen@cwebber@neil#WebFinger isn't part of the AP spec (AFAIK). It's just something Mastodon (and Pleroma) bolt on, so people can continue to use the familiar user@domain.foo ID format, and (I assume) to maintain backwards compatibility with #OStatus.
@rick_777@frankiesaxx@crickxson some of the apps haven't finished their implementations of #ActivityPub yet, and are still federating with Mastodon via #OStatus. I'm hopeful most of them will roll it out by the end of the year (or at the lastest mid-2019). In the meantime, the behaviour of the meta-federation of all the apps remains *very* complicated to explain to newbies ;) Email was probably the same in its first few years (#FidoNet between #BBS prior to the net etc)
Yup, the core innovation of Mastodon was to build on something that already existed (#GNUsocial and #OStatus), and offer an alternative way of interacting with that network. People liked the new UI better, and it came out about the same time people were getting frustrated with the corporatization of the birdsite following its IPO, so Mastodon got a lot more tech press than the older apps on the same network ever did.
@stigatle you're not going to move to another #fediverse instance? Hopefully #Diaspora can eventually be convinced to support #ActivityPub, since it addresses most of the shortcomings of #OStatus that led them to create their own standardized set of protocols.
@Wolf480pl@Michcioperz@Karneolius keep in mind there's no rule that every #AP instance has to connect to every other #AP instance, or connect to them all in the same way. As we increase the "diverse" in #fediverse, all sorts of conventions will emerge for making sure tab As can only be inserted in tab Bs. If needed #AP can be extended or replaced, just as it is replacing #OStatus
@LWFlouisa@cwebber also, I suspect that the #ActivityPub protocols, the standard that is (or will be) replacing #OStatus and already has on #Mastodon, have built in better cross-network filtering tools than have the #Diaspora protocols, possibly for the same reason. I suspect if Diaspora doesn't do the work to support multiple protocols, so their users can connect directly with users on the AP #fediverse, they will become irrelevant.
@lain this is a subject I don't fully grasp. I need to dig deeper. But, isnt fetching remotes up to the server, either by polling of if the remote provides push notifications? Also, in #OStatus, isnt that managed by pubsub?
@andyc Last stable release of #GNUSocial was in 2014. So this is what #OStatus has come to: a choice between bit rot and installing #Ruby. I say we all just hit each others' #RSS feeds every 60 seconds. If nothing else, it might screw up #GoogleAnalytics for a while.
What does this mean? Well, it would be nice to take in a few more maintainers to ensure the site code gets some desperately needed improvements, for example. There are several things that have been requested by community members which I (Jason Robinson) haven't had time to implement due to work ongoing with #Socialhome.
My personal wish would be to make The-Federation.info even more into a nice landing page for all #TheFederation / #Fediverse projects. This would mean not being constrained to just following servers running the #Diaspora protcol, but also including servers from #ActivityPub and #OStatus side, for example. The information is available out there, if not in exactly the same format, at least to some level.
If you are a #federated social web enthusiast, possibly even a maintainer of one of these projects and interested in improving the site, please get in touch, for example by replying here or chatting on FreeNode #thefederation channel, or directly to me. Please don't use private messages since those are not supported by this account yet.