Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 149

Two things Gavin, 1) one of your examples is totally different from the others, in a whole bunch of fundamental and important ways (don't believe the #OpenWashing), and 2) cities and countries *have* banned the first three, in a number of cases, but never even considered banning the last one, because of fundamental differences mentioned in point 1)

Overall, I agree with a lot of Gavin's sentiments in this article, but ...
"It will be no more possible to outlaw Web 3.0 than it was for cities and countries to ban Uber, Airbnb, Grindr, and Wikipedia." #FacePalm
https://medium.com/@gavofyork/why-we-need-web-3-0-5da4f2bf95ab

@bob another aspects of the problem with email, as with IRC, is lack of evolution in the #UX. As @maiyannah says, the protocols are still useful, but there are so many ways the client UIs could be improve to make them more intuitive to use. One example, I want to see changes in my email client when an email I sent has been successfully delivered, and when it's been read (or at least opened) by the receiving user. Using something like colour code or icon changes, not something I have to dig into.

@maiyannah @bob I agree with what both of you are saying here. I would add that I think #CoHosting is probably a more realistic long-term approach than #SelfHosting for most people, although I encourage those with the skills and time to self-host, and I can see that doing so is a good way to gain the experience that allows people to share in the work of maintaining co-hosting operations like #RiseUp, #Framasoft, or #Disroot (or what I call 'digital cafes').

@mlg I think we've probably got a lot in common. I read Small is Beautiful back in about '99, and although I haven't read Bucky directly, many of the authors of read reference his work. Thanks for the blog link, I'll have a read.

@z428 I know what you mean ;-) I wrote a piece back in April, 2017, about how confused I was about the foam of federated network development:
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/blog/2017/04/01/a-brief-history-of-the-gnu-social-fediverse-and-the-federation/

I was a bit less confused a year later, when I summed it up like this:
https://gitlab.com/fediverse/fediverse.gitlab.io/issues/11
@charlag @lightone

@z428 @charlag the same issues applies to DMs, outside of Mastodon there's no ironclad guarantee they won't be federated as normal posts in #ActivityPub networks. The UI would need to make it clear that the post was only guaranteed to self-destruct on the instance it was posted on. As Mike says though, this is a solved problem in #Zot networks
@lightone

@synaesthetica fair enough, that's why I'm saying it ought to be a user-controlled setting, not something that anyone else would decide about your posts. But there's definitely times I post things that I want to be seen for a while as part of a trivial, chatty exchange, but don't want to make of the permanent record of my contributions here. Some people use alts for this, but I think ephemeral posts offers a simpler way of achieving it.
@Gargron @mayel @mike @bob @lain @lightone @bhaugen

@mlg economists usually define "property" as a class of real assets, including but not limited to real estate (land and buildings). You seem to be using it interchangeably with "real estate". Is that fair comment? To be clear, I'm not saying that definition is right or wrong. Although some definitions are arguably more useful than others, I don't think there's any such thing as a "wrong" definition. I just want to make sure we're using the same one, to avoid confusing and frustrating each other.

@mlg let's go back a step. Like "capitalism", "state", and "rent", there are a number of ways you can define "property". We need to be clear on what definition we are using here, to avoid arguing past each other. For example, while the commonsense definition of property is "anything that can be owned including my toothbrush", Marxist theory generally defines it as "means of production", so when they talk about abolishing property, they're not talking about your toothbrush, or even your house.

@RangerMauve really? Isn't metadata part of the file being torrented? I guess it depends what you mean by "metadata". Also, since comments are federated using #ActivityPub, there ought to be a way for #PeerTube to make sure any comment on a given video appears everyone that video is mirrored. But I guess that won't help unless the torrent client used to open the #MagnetLink supports AP.

#Mashable in on the right track here, but it's not just Huawei that needs to being doing radical transparency and independent security auditing, every tech company needs to be doing this:
https://mashable.com/2018/02/14/huawei-prove-phones-not-spying-americans/#Wsnl.NvO6sqt

The internet is a global network, and information security can't be improved by pointing fingers at companies on the basis of which country their head office is in. We already have evidence that US spooks are using US technology companies to conduct mass surveillance. This has to be declared constitutionally illegal in every democratic country. If the US spooks have any evidence the Chinese spooks and tech companies are following their lead, let's see it #PutUpOrShutUp

So, the same institutions that vowed and declared that Iraq had 'weapons of mass destruction', are now claiming that any internet communications are at risk if they touch any piece of hardware sold by Chinese companies (but not if it's made in China by US companies). Like Gordon Cambell, I'm not convinced:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1812/S00013/gordon-campbell-five-lingering-questions-on-the-huawei-ban.htm

Found while searching for something else, it seems US spooks have been spreading #FUD against #Huawei and #ZTE since at least 2012:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-pentagon-analyst-china-has-backdoors-to-80-of-telecoms/

I prescribe this song as an excellent short term treatment for any ailment caused by taking life too seriously:
https://invidio.us/watch?v=Q9YRgaVomZ4
#DareToBeStupid

@LWFlouisa I don't remember that one.

I really like the way Wire allows me to post self-destructing messages. It would be of huge benefit for the long term storage needs of all #fediverse instances, if they allowed users to mark fun shiptoasting posts to self-destruct in a day, or a week, or whatever, leaving more informative or thoughtful posts to become part of the history of the web.
@Gargron @mayel @mike @bob @lain @lightone @bhaugen

@ChrisWere great list! Would you mind describing fediverse.party as a "guide" rather than a "wiki"? The site itself is not a wiki, as only admins like our founder @lightone can edit it. We do have a wiki at our GitLab repo where we gather lists like yours to research future content for the guide.