@jjg @kelbot @haitch @vertigo Actually we're running a (bastardized, IMO) clone of a minicomputer operating system (Unix was first developed on a PDP-7) on our phones. Still nuts, but not as much as running a mainframe OS like, for example, z/OS.
Notices by jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city), page 18
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Dave V. ND3JR (nd3jr@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:29:06 EST Dave V. ND3JR
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:31:30 EST jjg
@ND3JR @kelbot @haitch @vertigo
I should have known I'd bump-into someone on Mastodon who could have the Minicomputer/Mainframe debate... 😂
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:20:06 EST jjg
Right, don't get me wrong, I don't *regret* Linux, I just think it's time for something new.
We're running a mainframe operating system on our phones, it's kind of nuts.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:18:17 EST jjg
Agreed (I should have mentioned that I was assuming that an O/S like this would require new hardware as well :) )
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:15:21 EST jjg
Also there's Unix architecture things that I don't think are necessary for a personal computer, for example all the stuff that goes into multi-user/timesharing.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:12:04 EST jjg
If you didn't have to support Linux, and you didn't have to support the "modern web", you could make computers a lot less complex, a lot more energy efficient and a lot more open.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:11:12 EST jjg
There's some fundamental stuff that limits Linux to fairly complex CPU's (@vertigo could explain this in more detail than I can). This makes it a lot harder to use on synthesized CPUs, which have a lot more potential for being open.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 11:02:35 EST jjg
I'm not aware of something better that currently exists, but I can imagine something a lot simpler, with much lower resource requirements and complexity.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 10:27:46 EST jjg
I don't have any engineering problems with SiFive but I'm not so sure about the company, and frankly they are just hard to get your hands on.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 10:27:11 EST jjg
Agreed all around.
I'm starting to think I need to focus my work around very large, high-performance computers and around very small, low-resource designs.
Linux is great, but I question its use for personal computers. The result is a pretty steep price across many vectors.
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@h (haitch@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 10:10:15 EST @h
@jjg @vertigo Yeah me too. Work in progress I guess. Not that I'm dying to run Linux specifically, but that would signal that a major milestone has been reached on the road to freedom, becoming able to run a major operating system on almost-free hardware. When it happens.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 09:54:30 EST jjg
Oh wait, I thought this was a RISC-V core synthesized on an FPGA running Linux. Turns out it's a SiFive FPGA core (or rather, 4) running linux with some FPGA fabric on the side.
Still cool, but I was hoping for something that didn't rely on SiFive :)
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2018 09:52:23 EST jjg
This is so cool I'm willing to suppress my hatred of "worlds first"-ness 😆
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pip :autism: (piponfishing@sunbeam.city)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 16:31:09 EST pip :autism:
@OmnaBrain @jjg For sure, We just have to know and care and be connective with each other to make that happen. I don't think it's really possible for that to happen by accident anymore, barring some life altering disaster. I think community building is kind of a technology, the same way alienating people to keep them under control is. It's systematic, we can come together that way too. If I wasn't a socialist I wouldn't care about knowing my neighbors beyond like... that would be nice.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 16:48:04 EST jjg
@OmnaBrain @piponfishing I’ll be reading some of this soon :)
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 14:45:12 EST jjg
@OmnaBrain @piponfishing that’s a very interesting point.
Personally I’ve struggled to understand why peoples identity is deeply bound to a place (although I suppose there is a difference between natural physical places and man-made constructs like cities/states/countries/etc.)
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 07:57:48 EST jjg
I’ve studied plain cultures (Amish, Mennonite, etc.) for similar reasons (although more focused on autonomy). I see a lot there that could be useful in a socialist/anarchist sense if you can subtract the harmful stuff and still preserve the community, autonomy, etc.
I think you can do it, you just need a shared value system, but it doesn’t need to be religious/hierarchical/etc.
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CorvusRobotica (corvusrobotica@mastodon.art)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 07:27:05 EST CorvusRobotica
We have forgotten ambience in the face of efficiency. This is the true downfall of humans, the decay of magic in the spaces we meet and love each other. The libraries whirr with machinery and all nooks are brightly lit. The parks are shorn and manicured and not a bush is left to hide in.
Were magic happened, and ambience flourished, we shone a light because we were so scared of the darkness in ourselves. Forgetting it is where our soul rests.
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jjg (jjg@sunbeam.city)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 07:46:17 EST jjg
Has anyone written or analyzed this risk? When you put it in these terms it sounds terrifying to someone who knows about these things but I’m curious if there is some media that explains it well that I could share with laymen.
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StuC (stuc@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Sunday, 02-Dec-2018 07:32:40 EST StuC
@aral @Purism @gnome today I was told that google G Suite for education has 70m+ customers and that in the USA, two schools in three are using it. I haven't checked this figure, but if it is even close to being true we are placing the data of millions of children into the hands of the largest dealer in data on earth - before we even give them a choice.
A whole generation sold into data serfdom.
We have to get the technology you are talking about into the hands of educators.
How?